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| Author: | xZEROx [ Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Weird escalation troubles... |
In clubs i just can't seem to get my physical escalation right and it ends up in a clumsy mess and me walking away usually (4 times last night, and more previously). I can get attraction going, isolate the girl and bounce to the dancefloor (they normally request this, and i just go with it). My kino is comfortable up to this point, then when i start to increase the escalation towards a kiss close they are not receptive and i roll off, and try again. I do this a few times before i don't know what to do, so i just go. My successes normally come when i am being ultra dominant and funny. Or the girl seems like she is open and wants to kiss me so i just go for it and its all good. But when i have to escalate using some 'skill' and calibration i end up fucking it up (or i at least think that and walk off), although having said this the girls normally stay with me. I try to escalate fast and ease down if they get uncomfortable, the problem is worse when i'm dancing with a girl. I am more comfortable when we are talking and joking around in the club. Any practical advice would be great, to help this sticky situation. |
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| Author: | pumpington [ Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:16 pm ] |
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girls will have a certain compliance threshold depending on alot of different variables, the main function of physical compliance testing, is to test how compliant a girl is with you, escalation is not even 100% necessary, you don't have to build your way up to a kiss, it is just that compliance builds momentum and someone is more likely to comply with something if the compliance is built in small steps, but if someone simply does not wish to give you a certain level of compliance, no amount of compliance momentum (escalation), will change this, you are essentially screening for interest, not magically building it kissing for example, can be a level of compliance reached in the first two minutes just by going for it, you don't have to magically build your way up to kissing, just try to make out, it either happens, or you get shut down (if she doesn't know you or doesn't find you attractive, then you have a greater chance to be shut down), all these things you are doing are just a test of interest, you are trying to screen girls for interest as best you can so you can figure out if she is what you are looking for, if you are looking for girlfriend material, then focusing on qualification and what you want in a girlfriend is necessary, as well as displaying your personality and making yourself vulnerable to see if the two of you have chemistry, if you are just looking for sex, then just sexually escalate, if you hit a threshold that is too low then she is a waste of time and you should keep opening new girls to figure out if they are more compliant, escalate hard and fast and try to figure it out quickly if you find this concept sort of strange, just go around for a few weeks to big clubs where you have a good excess of girls to open (some around here will have a good 50+ girls a night), and just try to kiss close on the open [youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaEVc-XNy9U[/youtube] [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBwqVBbaUBA[/youtube] [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuTnlabJ3I0[/youtube] touching is not a per-requisite to get a girl to kiss you, how ever gauging compliance and building compliance momentum can help you get to a higher level of compliance then you could get to without escalation, but if a girl has a decided she is not interested in you and doesn't want to kiss you, she will not kiss you, she may talk to you, but that is a lower level of compliance, so start testing for compliance as soon as possible |
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