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Author:  desertEagle [ Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:21 pm ]
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hey guys, so ive been doing quite a bit of research on my condition of social shyness / anxiety and ive made some good progress thatnks to this forum. ive started to patterns in it and ive noticed i have a phobia (self diagnosed) of physical contact. ironically, this is one of the msot important parts of seduction and could be one of the reasons why im not as sucessful as i could be. what could be a good way to get over my fear of making physcal contact during seduction?

Another thing im noticing about myself is the low slf esteem, which is seriously holding me back from DHV (display higher value). ive searched up the concept and even thoguh i know whats going on in my head now, and everyhting isnt as foggy, i still dont know exaclty the steps to take to help myself (or anyone reading this) get over these negative mind sets.

Author:  fortyfour [ Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:51 am ]
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do you literally not like to be touched by attractive women? try going to a strip club and getting a lap dance from the prettiest girl there. do you not like it when the girl touches you? if so, is it only certain ways (ie you don't like it if she touches your chest, but your legs are fine) or are you bothered by any physical contact whatsoever?

If you are bothered by any physical contact I'd recommend seeing someone, it's impossible to date/bang chicks without touching them, naturally.

If you're saying you are just scared to touch girls, welcome to the club! Everyone is at first. Until you get enough positive feedback and start to learn that they like it when you do it properly.

Author:  desertEagle [ Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:49 am ]
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do you literally not like to be touched by attractive women? try going to a strip club and getting a lap dance from the prettiest girl there. do you not like it when the girl touches you? if so, is it only certain ways (ie you don't like it if she touches your chest, but your legs are fine) or are you bothered by any physical contact whatsoever?

If you are bothered by any physical contact I'd recommend seeing someone, it's impossible to date/bang chicks without touching them, naturally.

If you're saying you are just scared to touch girls, welcome to the club! Everyone is at first. Until you get enough positive feedback and start to learn that they like it when you do it properly.
i tihnk it was more the last part, because ovbviously like being touched by women lol ... no its just like.. if someone stands too close to me or bumps me or shit like that... it makes me aggressive/ timid at the same time :S thats the best i can describe it ... and yea i did go to a strip club once and the stripper was confused by the fact that i was so gentle lol ....

Author:  snillaheart [ Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:42 am ]
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pretty much you have low self esteem and you need to focus on fixing that, youve got fears and limiting belifs, whatever they are force yourself to face those fears.
are you shy? go out and make yourself approach random strangers baby step your progress and face your fears thats all you gotta do

Author:  desertEagle [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:57 am ]
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yea i am shy, triyng ot get over it. i think is also getting in the way of my sex life, which isnt that great.. i mean i didint even get one blow job through out high school... wtf lol ... touch is something so important because it lets the girl know your intentions without having to be too blunt about it, which is the dilema here. i mena im sure theres more than just touch, but i seriously need ot get over my shyness/ low self esteem. and i know, i need t jsut go out there and present myslef, but the right words dont always come to mind/ i pussy out last second, even thoguh ive done it before at parties and i know there is no harm in it even in the amll or on the bus or what ever ... im talking to counsellors about the low self esteem and shyness and how to develope a less "serious", confident and free flowing personality

Author:  snillaheart [ Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:09 pm ]
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its good that youre talking to counselors, tho i recomend you stop people on a street and purposely get yourself embarrased, say anything awkward stand there and walk away(they will probably walk away first). you pussy out last second cause you begin thinking next time your there dont think anything just feel your nervousness as you stop a stranger it will all be done with quick and youll feel a bit high

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