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| Author: | Blind Witness [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | building attraction, without getting friend-zoned? |
Whenever i try to build attraction i usually get friend zoned, what are some good ways to avoid this, so it never happens again? |
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| Author: | Wolfwoodd [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:51 pm ] |
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What is it you are doing exactly when you "build attraction"? That's pretty vague. In general, here is my advice for staying out of the friend-zone: -bring up sexual topics via entertaining stories or provocative questions. Ask her about previous relationships, talk about your own past relationships (just the entertaining/sexual parts - never say anything too negative about your ex's). -touch her, as much as possible without being creepy (kino speaks louder than words). If you go someplace together, then pick a place where you can sit next to her rather than across from her. Make your interactions playful. Tease girls about silly things and then hug them when they start to fake-pout. -Pass all of a girl's shit tests. Failing shit-tests will get you put in the friend-zone fairly quickly. Have a strong sexual frame (i.e. sub-communicate that you're not interested in being her "friend"). Avoid answering direct questions or asking / answering interview-style questions. -Don't spend too much money on girls. Only chumps throw money at women in the hopes that they'll be repaid with sex. You want to be the "lover", not the "provider". -Don't be needy / try-hard. Don't push to hard to meet up or get annoyed when she has to reschedule. Don't tell a girl how much you love her after the second date (you'd be surprised how many guys do this). When you first start seeing a girl only plan meet-up's with her once or twice a week. - Lead well. Always have a game-plan or a couple really fun insta-date ideas as back-ups. Be the one to make the decisions, or at least be the one to narrow down the options so it's easier for the girl to pick something. "What do you want to do now? we can either go back to my place or go to XYZ." -Don't show off your insecurities. Don't get upset when she shares intimate details about her past or when she mentions her ex-boyfriend(s). Don't get agitated when she talks/flirts to other guys at bars. -Don't be her psychiatrist and try to solve her problems. Don't be her shoulder to cry on (i.e. her emotional tampon). She has girlfriends for that kind of thing. I think those are the main points. -Wolf |
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| Author: | Tasty [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:19 pm ] |
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^ It's easy to say "do this and do that"...but really you have to already be an attractive guy. It's either there, or it isn't, and nothing you DO can really change her mind. Build an attractive lifestyle around yourself... do things that are FUN to YOU, and you can invite her along and give her an experience. Also, about friendzones, you can't really complain because in your mind you want to sleep with her, but on the outside you are acting like her brother. Ask yourself how many times did you build tension, such as touching her leg, and let it linger, driving her crazy, to the point where you want to tear eachother's clothes off? None? there you go |
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| Author: | Blind Witness [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:46 pm ] |
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Ive done all of that except for not helping them with their problems, ive spent to much time trying to help chicka with their problems, i never thought of it like that. Thanks wolf! |
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| Author: | maleaco [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:28 pm ] |
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Make sexual comments if the conversation can call for it, and hold your ground, make her say "noooooo~!" in a playful way alot and laugh alot |
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| Author: | Centre [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:30 pm ] |
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A friendzone needs a little time to develop. The longer you wait to make a physical move the more chance of being friendzoned "Whenever i try to build attraction i usually get friend zoned" Have you sat down with a pen and a pad and analyzed what you are doing? |
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| Author: | pumpington [ Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:05 am ] |
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if you want out of the friend zone, then sleep with her if you already have, then your problem is you and her don't have any chemistry together if you find you are always being friendzoned, then chances are it is one of the following -you lack intent -most girls find you unattractive if your problem is intent, then go look up a compliance ladder, and topics relating to sexualization, learn to escalate, suck it up, get the girls you are interested in alone, and try to have sex with them, there is no magical time or moment, the moment is when she is alone and you have the logistics, heat her up, make out, take your clothes off while making out, finger bang, have sex if your problem is being unattractive, this is a long road that you should constantly be working on, if you are not fit, go to the gym and get fit, if you are ugly, get a new haircut and do the best with grooming that you can, if you are emotionally reactive to people and known for being a spaz, take some anger management classes, if you are a big pushover practise being assertive and doing things that make you feel uncomfortable, showcase your strengths and work on your weaknesses, take note of when you are being needy and when you are trying to get people to like you instead of just doing what you want, start finding the fun in life for yourself and hanging out with other people because they like to share your time, instead of clinging to people in the hopes you can get something from them, and they improve your life, make a change and just improve everyones life around you just by being you, never stop trying to improve yourself -socially-financially-physically- GOOD LUCK |
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