This was a sticking point, but it has changed over the past 6-8 months.
I have put alot of work to find a way around it.
Male and females can't be friends because of attraction.
Women would like to think so (even though attraction is there), but we males know!
Do I end up in friend zones?
Yes I do, but that is not a problem for me, im fine with it. I have patience and im not so desperate to have sex all the time.
(Because I dont want to have a serious relationship until im 27-30, I want to get good at picking up girls and have much experience.)
I got alot of experience from it, good ones and bad ones.
I get to know females as they are, and how they think.
I started to see patterns in girls, and thats good experience.
Something between me and the fz girl-friend:
- I always meet her alone, never with my friends or her friends. (this can be broken if im going out to clubs)
- I keep our relationship private, its between us no one else, its a bond of loyality and trust.
- I show her that I care, and that I will always be there, not only by words, by actions too.
- Im open about everything even sex (the sex talk is a part of the attraction between us two because you never done it, and if I do it with her, I know what she likes.)
Have I ever fucked things up?
Yes plenty of times.
- Fucked their friends without permission.
- Fucked them and they couldnt take the pressure because "Now is everything we had destroyed, this will change everything" (we will get to more details about it later).
- Being a douche bag.
- Lied about something small -> turns into the biggest deal. I get mad, both get mad. Say stupid shit -> second world war happening
- Being to cold and never tell my private personal problems, or anything at all.
- Broken our trust and loyality (never brake that)
But im pretty charming, and if a girl get to know me she will have a hard time letting me go.
Let me brake down some shit about friendzone.
I think friend zones are good, even though I can get feelings/be attracted to her.
Since I dont want to have a relationship, they will be my wing girls. They will make me look good when we go out together.
And some of them have friends that want to fuck me because im hot, and they will set every thing up for me.
Feelings turns to -> Caring for her. Being there for her. Listen to her. Giving her advice.
Attraction turns to -> Want to have sex with her. Thinking she is smoking hot.
A woman finding a really true and loyal male friend -> Very hard to find.
Will she keep me forever -> YES
Now already from the start, she knows I think she is hot. I make that clear for her by flirting and telling it to her. She also knows I dont want a relationship.
And even under the time we are friends, I will still flirt, I tell her she is smoking hot, cuddle with her etc. I noticed that even my best girl friends flirt with me, its like a game.
I keep the attraction going on all the time, and in time it will be like a ticking bomb.
The attraction between female and males will always be there!
She will want to have sex with you at some point, and you will always want to have sex with her.
She know that you want to have sex with her, and you know that she wants it too.
She will think about it, she will wonder how it is to kiss you. And so do you.
Girls are hornier than males!
The only problem I may have is:
- You're value as a friend is bigger than sex when the risk is that everything changes between us
That is the only thing I have had problems with, but I just kept flirting and pushing it to more alone time, watching movies, going on walks to romantic spots.
- Cuddling is not so intense, its not a big deal to do. Its ok and very nice to do while watching a movie, or if its cold outside and you embrace her.
- Kissing is more intense, its the cuddling that warms her up and allows it to happen, I always create a athmosphere with candles and stuff if we watch a movie. To some of you it sounds weird, but if you are close friends its cosy, she will like it!
- While kissing, im not to forward, i take it easy, touching her gently. And then after a while sex just happens.
Now it has happened that my g-friends gets a panic the day after saying
- I hope this wont change everything, I dont know what happened, you mean the world to me. (she thinks I will leave her now because I got what she knew I wanted.)
A successful thing i said was:"I wont change because of this? Infact I liked it, I think this made our relationship closer.
"The thing is that I dont let sex ruin what I have build up, I am as I always been, I still flirt, i will still be there for her, and I wont let it all be about sex just because it happend. I can still be with her without having sex, and by doing this, and showing her that, for us sex becomes a thing that happens sometimes now and then when the timing is right.
I got alot of fuck buddies now, and shit is rolling right!
This is not 100% bullet proof, but dont be afraid to try it out!