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Author:  sparks_industries [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:14 am ]
Post subject:  I find it hard to get girls to invest in me enough to date
I'm have a HUGE sticking point with girls that i like
i find that attracting the girls that i want to game is pretty good but making them invest in me is very WEAK
i dont understand perfectly what it is i try to self analyze it all the time and i think its because i'm showing too much interest and too much neediness but not in a weird creepy stalker kind of way


I want some advice on the right way where its just enough interaction for her to feel comfortable with me to want to date me constantly

i used to think i wanted multiple girlfriends and live like player but im just looking for a serious relationship right now

(ppl involved in the story john my promoter friend
jim my other promoter friend
jenni target

Ok so basically i'm a club promoter and i'm around girls and ppl every weekend.
And i met a girl out of the blue one day on boxing day it was a special event my promo company i work for was having i was done work and just hanging out with the promo team not really expecting anything
when i was done one of my friends jim asked if i wanted to go eat at a korean 24 7 restaurant at that point i was bored and i didnt want the night to be over so i said yes
and while i was waiting for him i saw a cute girl whom i introduced myself to she looked like she was waiting for someone
turns out it was jim my friend
turns out she needed to wait for him because she needed to pass out on his couch because she lives really far
so me and my friend jim and another promoter friend john and the girl jenni went to go eat not really expecting to game this girl at all
while we were eating i noticed jim and john were being really mean to jenni in a more little sister neging sort of way
it looked like my friend jim and john didnt rele care too much for this girl either in terms of gaming her so i joined in on the teasing and making fun of her
i have to admit she was taking it really well for a girl i have never seen a girl that teased all night like that and just take it and laugh it off
after we were done eating we had to part ways but me and john were the only ones driving
the original plan was for jenni to sleep in jims house and they all got a drive home from johns car cuz i lived in the oppsite side of everyone
but jenni was saying how she wanted to take a bus home and (being the night in shining armor) didnt allow her to go home in the bus
so we said dont be stupid go to jims house and sleep on his couch but she was complaining how his couch was uncomfortable
so i told her ok then come sleep in my house and apparently it was ezier for her to go home the next day in terms of public transite for her if she slept over at my house

at this point i was thinking in my head its ON im gunna get her to sleep in my bed and game her not fuck her but just get her comfortable
so she "invests in me faster"(because i do believe games does lie alot in comfort)

so i was sticking to the same frame making fun of her teasing her and kinoing her
she tried to talk to me about a previous promoter that she used to like because the topic did come up when we were all eating but i told her "look at these shoulders their rele not for leaning on so bla bla bla i dont wanna hear it"
so we changed topics

so i bring her to my place and show her my living room and she was saying is there a place where i can sleep on the floor instead of the couch because i dont want your mom to come out and see me sleep and ill be uncomfortable
(in my mind all i wanted was for her to come sleep with me in my bed)
so i told her no i dont and i showed her my room because there is literally a table and a bed there
and as a joke she lied down on my bed and said im gunna sleep here you sleep on the couch
so keeping to my little sister frame i was told her fuck that there is no way that shit is happening

so she suggested why don't i just sleep on a corner of your bed and you sleep on the other side i wont take up too much space

and i didnt respond but later on after just talking and letting her wash her face she came over to the bed and gave me a puppy dog face and i told her ok fine you can sleep on the left side of my bed but i told her "dont touch me" (becuase i wanted her to feel comfortable that it wasnt some scheme to get her into my bed) so she washed up and we were lying in my bed all i wanted to do was cuddle with her and i had no thoughts of having sex with her because she only knew me today and i was starting to get to like her. (you could say i was playing the long term game) we were teasing each other and i pretty much warmed her up to me so that i could cuddle her and she kept hitting me in a playful way and we both fell asleep at 9:00am in the moring lol
Author:  40 year old virgins broth [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:42 am ]
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you're only as good looking as u are perceived.

so if u do ok in the beginning, as do I, it only lasts as far as the next good looking who walks in. if two better looking guys than u walk in, u are up against it, because u will then be perceived as the ugly one of the bunch.

one thing I learned is if u want to pick up a woman and keep her attention, dont bring your better looking friends with you. bring somebody uglier than u, then u look better.

this is all until u can get her emotionally invested in you, dont stack the deck against yourself though. Its been proven that women rate us against the other guys in the room. but if u hang with really ugly dudes, that can also backfire because u get lumped in with all the uglies, and have less value.

So, hang with medium looking guys who are less good looking than you, or if possible, hang with women.
Author:  sparks_industries [ Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:07 am ]
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cool but that dosnt really help me with what plan of action i need to take to get this girl and game her properly

anyone have any suggestions?
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