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Author:  WiselyWitty [ Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:  From opening to A3

My sober AA is extremely weak, almost in fact non existant. I have no problem opening when i am plastered but it sucks and i don't even remember the conversation since it does not usually go anywhere further lol.

I will say my A2 is pretty solid in any frame of mind, it's just getting over that approach. And escalating sexual tension is another problem of mine. I'm stuck in the middle

I have come to the realization that I'm an AFC. Makes me chuckle because when I look back over the years I thought being nice to girls was going to get me far. God damn i was wrong.

heres a quick background story: I broke out of my AFC shell until this one girl who completely destroyed me, my confidence, anything I had learned about not being the predictable nice guy with a bigger vagina than her. I told this girl to fuck off, and she comes back months later wanting to re-initiate, i told her off again and that she was dead to me for the sole reason of making me an AFC again, hence she got fat too :P (serves her right)

anyways enough rambling.. down to business now. I have a strong point, I can make girls laugh, that's about it. I have AA because I don't know what to say when I approach, I get too concentrated on what I should say since ill feel like a creep approaching. Whenever im talking to a chick I'm always building comfort/rapport, making her laugh hysterically, but never escalating it I realized. I have trouble understanding the concept of Kino and the moments when to do it. I'm always afraid to go in for a kiss since I think the girl will think it's creepy every time. The only time I feel comfortable or feel that it's right is when im in a club grinding my junk on her cum receptacle.

I'm still stuck in that frame of mind being an AFC, I have trouble finding a good opener, I still have trouble NOT being nice to girls. I still feel the need to be nice to girls, its hard to get out of that frame of mind when they put on that fake sweet personality they have when they really hold bitch status. I'm stuck in the friend zone. I hate women btw. :)

Author:  CluelessAFC [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:56 am ]
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Arg, same problem I face,

"rapport, making her laugh hysterically, but never escalating it I realized. "

"I'm always afraid to go in for a kiss since I think the girl will think it's creepy every time"

If any pros could elaborate a bit more on these that'd be awesome.
Going in for a kiss seems impossible unless you're

1. drunk and
2. she's giving you IOI's.

or 3. not drunk, but insanely apparent IOI's where you know for sure that you're not going to be a creep leaning in.

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