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Author:  9North [ Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Why Cant I build Attraction!!!

Help!!! Ive got a common Sticking point with building attraction and report. :x

Heres my deal, Ive been working with a friend on our own little version of the 30

Challenge. Were both working on using situational openers on 3 different girls a day,

its going Great. Ive gotten 4 or 5 different numbers as well as noticing significant

improvements in all other social aspects of my life. I seem to have little problem

making light small talk but i cant ever seem to forum much of a connection and

building attraction. Needless to say most girls this turns into 1 or 2 dates and me

sitting there without a kiss trying to figure out where Ive gone wrong.




--Most of the time I text because i find i run out of things to say on the phone.

--What do i do to move forward in the interaction

-- I have trouble building Report/Comfort

-- I cant figure out why I end up without the Kiss

-- After a few dates/hangouts/meetups/ the girl goes cold

Author:  carbonfinger [ Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:50 pm ]
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Possibly not being sexual enough, too much nice guy and ending up in the friend zone. If you can secure a second date with these girls then you have already built the attraction, she's probably wondering why the hell you haven't made some sort of move.

Author:  9North [ Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:26 am ]
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So Is what your saying that I should be more sexual or just to make a move?

How do I go about doing this? I feel that after a while these girls just seem to go cold

whats with that? is it just me or is it something I'm doing.

Author:  Vaako [ Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:36 am ]
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Yep! I guess it's all about a fear to pull the trigger. I dunno what is ur game style preferable - if u playing at night or day. if u said there is a problem with comfort building and seduction stage, u should work on them a little bit harder. Also there is a small problem with making talk.
I respect u for situational game and it seems that at the beginning everything going well. But there is a moment during a game when u see that this girl could be in u (iois etc). In my honest opinion there shall be attraction building mostly all the time - u doing this by DHV stories, routines, negs etc. Then start building comfort - be a bit seductive, let her be familiar with ur touch etc. There is bunch of kiss close routines that works perfectly! Do it! Pull the trigger! I just get flash from MM VH1 Pick-up artist seire, when 1 of the studens was sitting in the limo with exotic dancer and hes objective was to like kiss her... They were talking and there was a moment when he said smth like this:"u know what? fuck it" and start kiss her.
All I mean is do it by urself - just do whatever u doing best while gaming girls, get more routine/neg material to keep ur conversation without breaks, build attraction using DHV etc, make her comfortable, start kino and just by simple kiss routine shes yours!

Author:  pumpington [ Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:54 am ]
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ask yourself, is she being friendly?
if the answer is yes, touch her,
now ask yourself, did she resist my touches or back away/have negative response?
if the answer is no, just fucking bring her in close, and kiss her

Author:  khuram [ Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:01 pm ]
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buddy your problem is that you don't even have a game plan. I guess you are not following any method and all u know is we open with opinion opener. Do yourself a favour and pick a game style for you to practice. Without strong base, you cnt improve

Author:  9North [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:11 am ]
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If not following any one school of pickup is not having a game plan then I guess I might not. but the goals of my 30 day challenge are to not use the same old situational openers. In my opinion approaching a girl with some canned over used opener hasn't worked so well for me so far so i figured it'd be good to nix doing it. But you might be right man. I probably do lack a plan besides the old school MM model of FMAC but Ill definably be trying to pull the trigger a little more during this week.

Author:  pumpington [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:03 am ]
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Quote:
If not following any one school of pickup is not having a game plan then I guess I might not. but the goals of my 30 day challenge are to not use the same old situational openers. In my opinion approaching a girl with some canned over used opener hasn't worked so well for me so far so i figured it'd be good to nix doing it. But you might be right man. I probably do lack a plan besides the old school MM model of FMAC but Ill definably be trying to pull the trigger a little more during this week.
should be able to open with almost anything, in the right mood, as long as you preframe, or manage to not make the situation socially awkward,

if you are having a great deal of trouble, you might want to consider, changing your style/grooming, and if you are overweight, go hit the gym,

try just opening direct if you don't care and don't want to use a canned opener, just walk up, declare interest in an honest genuine way

Author:  khuram [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:25 am ]
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let me make it clear that when i say i do not mean canned material. I am nt a fan of mm of canned material. When i say game plan, i mean way point like first i am going to do this and then that that that and then that. Its must that u have a plan otherwise u cnt succeed

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