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| Author: | spok22 [ Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Holding Back |
Numerous times throughout my life, girls have shown interest in me, by telling me indirectly, making moves, using body language, ect. For some reason, and this has worsened with me reading all this PUA stuff, I feel like I am doing something wrong and "SPAM my power" if I show them interest back. As a result, I play it totally cool no matter what happens. Ive read David D's book and it says don't show interest and itll make them want you more. Now this is definitely true, because it has worked for me, but how much is too much? Is it ok to show interest, and if so when is it alright? |
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| Author: | kavakid [ Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | show interest |
The best thing is to to be able to show interest in a girl, but at the same time to give off the impression that she is just one of many girls you flirt with, hook up with, etc.. Imagine the perfect pick up artist. He would be able to go up to any chick, wink at her, and she would leave with him and they would have sex. What is that wink? It means he could put the time into seducing her if he needed to. He cold play all those games, demonstrate higher value, etc.. Because he has that aura, she wants to be with him. He has that power, and she knows it. And the fact that he doesn't have to prove it turns her on even more. How do you get that? I think it is very hard to fake. That is why I think so many pick up artists have to go at it for months with little success. Until they finally get to the point where they are not faking anything. If they communicate in some way that they are interested in hooking up with a girl, the girl knows that he doesn't care whether it is her or someone else. That is attractive to her. He is saying, I will get a phone number tonight, whether it is you or some other girl does not matter to me, because I know I can do it if I put in the effort. Try talking to everyone at a party. By the time you have talked to some chick you like, you feel so confident that you give off a glow. If you have been talking to a lot of chicks, then she will really pick up on the fact that she is just one of a line of girls who could hook up with you. You also want to give the impression that you are a closer. once it has been established that both of you are interested in each other, then you have put her on the fast lane to sensual pleasure. Unless you want to work multiple girls at a party or in your life in general, you shouldn't fuck around. Girls want sex, so be the guy who once he gets a foot in the door will be consistent about progressing to making out or sex in the next few days/weeks. Don't be shy about wanting sex. Perhaps don't say it out right, but know its okay to proceed with trying to get it from her. Be a closer. You can take the blame and then its not her fault, she is not a whore. I try to run game when meeting a girl. Then come up with a reason to get her number. I like to hand the phone to her and she put it in, its way cooler that way and looks like she is taking your number. Once we are hanging out I at some point ask if she likes massage. Try to do the massage on a bed, hers is fine. Ask if she likes butt massage. If she hasn't taken off her shirt, ask her to, and say it feels better. Massage her arms and hands and legs. tell her to flip over or sit up so you can massage her front. oh maybe do the neck first, then the front. At some point here you should kiss her neck or shoulders. then maybe other parts, but be sure to kiss her on the lips within a short period of time. Unless she is hardcore and just wants to fuck, but then you wouldnt have to do all this anyhow because she would have been riding you an hour ago Ha Ha. You also may want to put a number of girls in the friend category or fuck buddy category. Use these girls as pivots to show value and to learn about women. If all your friends are guys this is not ideal. Befriend a girl even if she is not attractive to you. Specific to your problem... If a chick comes up to you or shows interest, you may want to just be direct and talk for awhile, and try to move towards a number close without a lot of games. just be yourself and try to find a common interest that you can use as an excuse to hang out again or get a number. Then, if she loses interest, immediately go and talk to some other girl or group, or even solo guy. And then keep opening sets for as long as possible. don't focus on the fact that this girl lost interest. by not letting it ruin your night you will gain lots of experience opening sets. And then when girls approach or show interest you won't feel like you have to perform for her. Get away from the idea that you are performing for them. You are filtering and qualifying to find the chick who is ready for sex soon. Any routines you run are to get them out of their shell so that you can analyze them and determine if they are worth your time. You are doing it for yourself, not to impress them. Oh by the way it also helps to develop enough inner game that you can spend time by yourself when at home, taking a walk, etc. Because then you don't need anyone to lift you up. And you can also get her into your life directly just the two of you, without having to have her meet all your friends and date and blah blah. In other words the day 2 is you doing what you normally do which is spend a little time alone and she happens to be invited. And, how convenient, its just the two of you so you can give her a massage... Of course thats an ideal. at first it may be best to have several dates while you build experience, have her meet your friends, etc. But I am 32 years old and prefer not to waste time anymore... |
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