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Author:  WiseEYEZ [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:35 pm ]
Post subject:  MAJOR sticking point with Phone game
Hey guy's I've been having a major problem in terms of my communication skills when it comes to the day after and phone game. I come on with solid game and its truly rare when I don't get a number close especially when that's what i'm aiming for. I just always suck when I contact them afterwards to meet up or just chat. It's like most of the women I've ever been interested in never pick up but are quick to text (flakey numbers?) but even then my convo's usually end up in the dead zone like 3 or 4 texts deep with one word responses.

Basically do any of you guys have a similar problem or advice on how to improve my phone game? everything else is coming along fine for a developing PUA but this is tearing my game to shreds

HEEEEEEEELP!-Dave Chappelle voice
Author:  Beyond Pick Up [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:39 am ]
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can you exactly pinpoint what the problem is? :)

like maybe describe what you say or tell them, when do you call them etc...
Author:  WiseEYEZ [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:57 am ]
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Quote:
can you exactly pinpoint what the problem is? :)

like maybe describe what you say or tell them, when do you call them etc...
Dude my shit always trails off with almost this same order

Me:Hey whatsup!
HB:Not much chilling what you up too?
ME:Nothing you?
HB:Nothing.
....
OR
ME:What you got going on today?
HB:Nothing much laying around the house
ME: You trying to go see a movie?
HB: (No response in most cases or in the ones that do respond make up some lame excuse since there not doing anything but just dont want to hang.)

pretty much trails off after there with 3 or more texts of fluffing usually I don't get through on many phone calls they wont answer but will text immediately after I call lol

When it comes to anything not face to face my game drops significantly which i'm guessing is because of my sense of humor which I use to captivate an audience doesn't translate very well into the digital world since i'm very animated and sarcastic when in person.

I feel like I don't adequately plan out phone conversations enough but even when I try I usually sit for almost an hour barely able to think of anything. Or that I don't build enough comfort and possibly all my numbers are flaky. (I doubt it though but maybe prides speaking)

Any advice? I gotta nip this problem in the bud quick its messing me up big time
Author:  TheFreshPrince [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:48 am ]
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Quote:
Me:Hey whatsup!
HB:Not much chilling what you up too?
ME:Nothing you?
HB:Nothing.
Here, you are looking like a boring person. You aren't doing anything? Get some hobbies and fill your time! ;) Seriously, you look like you have nothing to do but text this girl, and you aren't even making THAT interesting. No opinions she can fill you in on? No jokes about her being so boring that she's doing "nothing"? (Makes her qualify herself). Do things that require a response.

Quote:
ME:What you got going on today?
HB:Nothing much laying around the house
ME: You trying to go see a movie?
HB: (No response in most cases or in the ones that do respond make up some lame excuse since there not doing anything but just dont want to hang.)
This girl looks like she may not be terribly interested to begin with, because she doesn't ask you anything. But it was also partially your fault, because you start with a boring question. This can maybe used half way through a conversation to know if she's available for a date, but shouldn't be the opening bit of "attention grabbing text". Besides, it should be "I'm going to see a movie, want to come along?" (Again, making it look like you have a busy social schedule, because you're DOING things.)
Author:  smithersonb11 [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:41 pm ]
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Be as playful as possible. Try to have fun when you're texing back and forth, I find i get to the point where im laughing at what im sending and sometimes what they send back. Just try to have fun with it and make jokes
Author:  PRookie [ Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:12 pm ]
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One thing ive learned in this forum is to never ask a girl whatsup or what are you doing ect.

Make it more funny!
Ive seen this on the forum not saying i made them!

insted of "Hey whatsp" try
"Hey What monkey business are you up to?!?!"

there are alot of them on the forum!

and when they ask you what you are doing

dont tell them "nothing" ive done that its a dead end!

LIE LIE LIE to them
If im not doing anything I just say some thing like
Me: im cocking (whatever you are going to eat or have eaten at home) chicken filet!
Her: Loool i didnt know you could cook!
Me: Well you dont look like the type who cook!
Her: blablablablabalab


or

"i just got home from working out, soo hungry!! Wanna take a bite together??"

im not saying you should lie all the time, but at least when you really aint doing anything, lie a bit and make it funny!



PRookie
Author:  IvanDyn [ Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:23 am ]
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although you might try to change your strategy, use different approaches and so on, the problem usually lies deep inside of you. I've seen this over and over again. The reason you got the number was because you have trained your initial game well enough to create a certain interest in the girl. However, learned game is still superficial. I am a big fan of working on your CORE confidence as a man. Once you have that there won't be many flakes, since the girls will FEEL your masculine energy and be attracted to you. Although this requires more work, it's a more solid, long term solution.
Author:  Aprovato [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:50 am ]
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I totally agree with Ivan...this is your goal long term. Everyone ultimately has to do it & maintain it, if they haven't already.

If you want a shorter term/quick fix, being more fun/interesting and leading should help out a lot here. Instead of:

AFC: Hey whatsup?
HB: Nothing, you?
AFC: Nothing....

It should be something more like:

AFC---> PUA: Hey Whatsup?
HB: Nothing, you?
PUA: got off work/school earlier, finished up a workout at gym...planning on heading over to that new juicebar they just opening on ABC street next to your house (or city, whatever) in a bit....you should join
HB: Can't...I have blah blah blah blah
PUA: Oh come on, it'll be fun. Plus I can show you that (monument/interesting item/whatever/tell you more about what we were talking about when we met etc.)...
HB: hmmmm... (unsure & thinking about it)
PUA: Tell you what. I'll come by in about 15 min. to pick you up. I can't stay out too late because I have (work/school/whatever) to do later/in the morning/afternoon/nite/whenever. (false time constraint per Mystery, or REAL if you do manage a busy life-which you should). Be ready when I come by. It'll be fun. See you in 15.
HB: (Finally caves seeing how awesome you are) Ok. Cool see you then.

:-) Always lead my friend and have a busy/interesting enough life where your game is congruent.

-A
Author:  Reverend_ [ Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:36 am ]
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Definitely don't try to make plans on the first text unless the two of you hit it off considerably when you met in person, and at the very least k-closed her.

Anyway OP your problem is you are being really generic in your texting, and also very boring. If I had a HB text me the stuff you text I probably wouldnt reply half the time.

Callback humour is really good to have on the first text opener, im assuming if you are as good at your in person game as you say you are you should have some material to go on with. For example if you met a girl who is studying to be a doctor you could say something like "How's my little surgeon going did you cut up any bodies today?". Anyway that isn't the best example but generally something that shows her you paid attention to her, and something that can bring her back to the mindset she had when you picked her up.

If you don't have any material for callback humour but you still picked her up, IE you pretty much started making out as soon as you saw her, I like to use a stock opener like "tequila 2.. afroman 0. This is the second time I've quit drinking this month, how did you pull up last night?" or "Hey I saw this number on a bathroom wall and it said call XXX for a good time, how you doin tonight babe? Haha jokes it's afroman from last night" etc. I have a big distinct afro which looks awesome so I pretty much always have some form of callback humour which is lucky.

As a rule of thumb dont text her things you would be embarrassed that your mates read, IE dont be over emotional and say gay shit like "wow I had such a great time last night, I can't believe I just met you I feel this connection between us already" that type of shit will most likely ruin all chances; and if it doesn't, well, shes that into you that it doesnt matter what you could say.

Also dont always reply immediately, take your time. If she's taking 1 hour to reply every time and you reply instantly she will pick up on that. Sometimes don't reply at all, if she makes a shit joke or starts going on about something boring just end the conversation. Make yourself scarce so that she will be excited to see your texts. Generally never send two texts in a row without a reply unless at least a whole day has gone by.

Another very important thing is congruency. If you were cocky and funny when you met her and picked her up, be cocky and funny in your texts. If you portrayed yourself as a high status gentleman or something like that go on with how you were in person.

Basically, you want to convey to her over phone/text the same things you do in person; that is, that you are confident, not needy, somewhat aloof/distant/mysterious, humorous, unserious and all else.

Good luck hope this helped.
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