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Author:  Vibe23 [ Tue May 31, 2011 7:12 am ]
Post subject:  Recovering from LMR?

I have had two dates in the last few days with girls from POF. I ran pretty good game, and kissed the first girl while we were walking back through the park and the second girl kissed me when I pulled her back to come closer.
So I have a campervan at the moment that I am using for weekend trips away, as our kissing progresses and as it is cold out we go sit in the back of the van. This progresses to lying down, kissing and some heavy kino. I have since read a tonne of push pull techniques that I have yet to try but would have been perfect to reframe the situation and help the overall escalation.
But at the time I kept going and after a while when things were not progressing I thought I would stop the progression, avoid buyers remorse and build it up next time. My problem is that I have since text both girls and no response, this is about two weeks ago and as I know they both like me it seems a shame to just end things there.
Is it possible to recover from this sort of LMR?
I sent one text 'I cant believe we almost had sex! You are a real seductress! Next time I wont be so easy!" Right approach or mistake? What should I use on the second woman?

Author:  Nova Casanova [ Tue May 31, 2011 7:29 pm ]
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Hmm, as with everything, you should bring your text with humour. E.g. :wink: at the end or w/e.
Maybe you did, but I cant tell now of course.

And work up the courage to call (one of) them. When you interpret her words and intonation you can tell a lot about how things are standing.

Author:  Vibe23 [ Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:37 am ]
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Cheers for the advice Ches, I didnt add any humour to the message and looking back you are right I should have definitely made it sound less serious.

Since I sent that text yesterday I havent heard anything back, so will call once tonight (as on our last date we semi-agreed to meet up tomorrow) and then if she doesnt pick up, I will leave it and move on.

I know I can recover from this LMR if I get a chance to meet up again but will find out tonight if that is going to happen and will keep you updated...

Author:  Nova Casanova [ Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:19 pm ]
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Please do so, I'm eager to hear from you about how this situation wil develop. :)

Author:  Adrino [ Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:53 am ]
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I think that it may have been best not to mention anything about almost having sex. If you had LMR there may have been some feeling of awkwardness (At least thats been my experience). By bringing it up in your text you might have had the awkward feelings resurface. If the earlier part of the date was all good and fun you could have referenced that because all the feelings associated with that time were positive.

I am pretty new her to, either way that's hindsight, but I wouldn't give up so easy. I wouldn't waste time and put someone else off for her, but your not really wasting time by trying to communicate and set something up for later. I agree that humor is good. Maybe a little neg so that she doesn't annoyed by your attention but finds it more funny, harmless and playful. There is a good list of text stuff in the routines section. Good luck.

Author:  zman27 [ Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:10 pm ]
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dont talk about sex until it happens for the first time. especially if you're trying to build comfort, and even more so if its a text over the phone. you cant really do this now, since both dates are over, but I tend to bring into conversation at the end of the date a place/event/whatever that you'd like to see sometime, or something of that nature. just have a conversation about it, and if she doesnt bring it up herself that you should both go (which she likely will if you build comfort), you bring it up. Then you're not stuck the next day thinking of some sleezy line to text her, just follow up on your convo about meeting up again.. sometime in the future, never the next day, make her wait at first.

If this girl doesnt mean anything to you yet I would just leave it at be, take the advice, and move on to the next one. good learning experience but timely to rebound from that situation. If anything just meetup w/ her friends and yours at a bar or whatever, then there's less awkwardness

Author:  kinorc [ Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:24 pm ]
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Why would you stop progressing? If a girl is laying down making out with you in your van, she knows the deal. Lmr is something to be shot down, not accepted. What you basically did was justify her resistance. Then u justified it even more by bringing it up. The last thing you wanna do is remind her she stopped ish. You could've framed the convo in a much better way. Don't bring up her not fucking you. Instead be sexy n flirtatious. Don't say "I can't believe we almost had sex!". You should believe you ARE going to have sex. Act like it. Use ":-p n ;-)" faces. Don't bring up the almost having sex, just be fun n flirty n act like nothing happened. You could be like "had fun the other night, let's go to x club at y time n have some more ;-)". Don't act like u got shot down or something, just act like its all normal. She may feel like omg how did that happen?...that's a good thing. It means you are doing your job well. Alot of times after a girl Fucks you she will be like wow I can't believe we did that n laugh. Just smile n give her a kiss. Also, don't think about push/pull techniques while in the moment. Just go n create passion. When u r kissing her move away a little n let her come to you. Then grab her hair, give it a little tug n jump in. While your making out push/pull is very subtle in my opinion. Its more about little teasing moments, followed by intense passionate moments. Not completely stopping, then starting again.

Hope this helps buddy. Post your results.

Author:  Vibe23 [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:13 am ]
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Thanks for the advice guys, I know this was a while ago but I hate it when guys dont update posts.
She was a bit shy and although she was cute she said she went to a girls school and hadnt been on many dates. So in hindsight I should have just followed through with the SNL and kept it natural and normal
But as soon as I got some LMR I wanted to see her again regularly and at the time I thought I could just build from where we left off. But unfortunately arousal and attraction doesnt work like that and is very much in the moment!

I feel like I have progressed a lot since then and I have a date this Thursday with a cute prosecutor that I met on the weekend and she makes me feel all AFC so looking forward to the chase, fun and seduction!

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