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Author:  powerpsi [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Closing when she doesn't give you any signals?

She wants me to kiss her, no doubt about that. She's gone out with me three times, that's a big one that she wants me. She likes to spend time alone with me.

But she gets nervous when we get physical and close. Sure she can keep what I call her "fake" air of confidence when talking with me across a table during dinner, or when joking with me we're sitting next to each other and our eyes don't meet. But when we're sitting on the couch and I put my arms around her, she gets soooo damn nervous. Hands get cold/clammy/sweaty, she doesn't look me in the eyes, she always needs to be sipping on her drink because her mouth gets dry due to nervousness.

And it discourages me.. I hold her hand and grab it and its cold and nasty, I caress her arm and she doesn't return any gestures of affection. I mean I know she WANTS me, I try to think of the reasons I mentioned above, but I'm not about to go to town on her neck and face when she doesn't even feel comfortable. So we end up just sitting there, my hand around her cuddling, talking about things.

What's the proper way to k-close with a girl like that. It's been happening since date one, and I know I need to build more comfort but I truly have been, I just think this girl may have self-esteem issues or something.

Author:  Infamous110 [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:48 pm ]
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Start here: http://www.vindicarlo.com/DiCarlo%20Esc ... lo.com.pdf

Author:  powerpsi [ Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:36 pm ]
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Definitely a good start, new around here and will give that a thorough read. If she's letting me get up the rungs she probably wants me to keep going.

One cuddle session we had she was nervous, not looking at me, cold hands, but she did put her head on my shoulder and I got real close to her neck, smelled her and touched her neck with my nose a little with my mouth.. shoulda used the opportunity to keep going up the ladder and touched/brushed her hair, kissed her. But I was AFC and I thought that she didn't want to do too much too soon if she was nervous like that. Lesson learned!

Also any other time we cuddled I would start too far up the ladder.. I need to remember to take it slow from the beginning again and climb my way up the ladder instead of trying to start at touching her legs or anything similar. Thanks for the read I'll put it to use!

Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:43 pm ]
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Yeah definitely start with smaller escalation and then build it up, but also remember to release. Escalate, release (take away the escalation) then escalate further, then take it away....
Also, you ever think about just having an honest talk with her about her being nervous? Sometimes you don't need any tactics, you just need to kinda understand where they're coming from and show that you're taking her feelings into consideration, by talking to her about it.

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