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Author:  Aces2Diamonds [ Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:39 am ]
Post subject:  Escalation help

I'm an English guy living in China, she is a Chinese girl. Met online, I quickly got her number. New to the pua thing, very very new so I've made a lot of mistakes already. Here's a quick review.

She's easily an 8, pushing for 9. Succesful in career, loves her job, friendly, knows she's top quality pussy. I've shown little interest attraction-wise apart from make her qualify herself to me occasionally.

1st date - 2 hours, Coffee date, DHV'd, did some cocky funny stuff, got female to male attraction. She looked disappointed when I said I needed to go home for work reasons.

2nd date - 60-90 mins, Another coffee date, I said the following,
"I'm new to Shanghai and don't want a girlfriend until I feel settled so just looking for friends SPAM."
Got this from DeAngelo and it rocked her a bit, she became a little pissed off and made a powerplay to end the date abruptly as we walked away from the coffee house.

3rd date - 3 hours, Zoo. Fun date, I said she looked like an Emu, then a Lion. There was playful kino and she made what I guess could be another power play. She took a phone call and said she had to get home to send a work related email. I felt at this point we're into comfort but i've not had a kiss close yet....so we're still in attraction...?

4th date - Sucked ass, I wanted to go to a theme park and go on some rides but she wanted to go to some quiet park where families walk around looking at water and tree's. We walked around the park for over an hour. It had been a few weeks since the zoo and I felt lost between attraction and comfort. I felt at one point I should have held her hand but pussed out like a weiny little puss-clown coz she was walking ahead so I'm approaching from behind her. Sounds like I'm making excuses, probably am. I pussed out. She deliberately fell on me in the taxi, I tickled her gently for a few seconds before removing her from touching me, then started with more playful kino.

5th date - Happened to read the Mystery Method beforehand and nailed it. Got female to male attraction up, escalated kino with a foot massage, got the doey eyed love looks from her where I should have kissed her but I was sat at the bottom of a sloped plank of wood lol and figured it could have ended as a potentially awkward first kiss. Even without the kiss close it went well.

6th date - The reason I'm posting here today. Almost feel like I'm back to square one. We had a nice day walking around local parks, playful kino and stuff but there was no doey-eyedness or kiss close opportunities and there were A LOT of shit tests. I mean they're coming by the bucketful now. It's a bit annoying. However she said, "Wo hen kai xing" at the end which means she had fun, is happy etc.

But this week she's been away on a business trip and instead of texting her mid-week I sent a message through the online site we met on because I thought it'd be different and I was bored at the time. Her answer was sort of official sounding, finishing with, "have a nice day, ****"

The stars are her name.

There's been no text messages this week and we didn't arrange to meet this weekend just gone (though that's happened a few times so it's ok)

Anyhoo guys, I'm wandering about the next date. I was thinking the theme park maybe? I need the kiss close soon though coz I'm worried about it getting stale. I've already shagged some random ugly Chinese girl so I know that it's similar to the western world over here. I don't want it to stale out.

If you have any help, suggestions...or more questions...I would appreciate it.

Author:  AdamThomas [ Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:58 pm ]
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You're being way too slow, and you seem to care too much about what she thinks of you, and a little intimidated. You say you don't want a girlfriend but you're definately playing it as if you do by waiting this long. You need to escalate quickly, kiss her next time, don't wait for the perfect moment because it isn't going to happen, just man up and do it. I usually make sure I go for it at least within the first 30 minutes of the first date, whether she seems really into me or not. I've never had a kiss rejected ever on a first date, if the girl is on a date with you assume she's interested. I'd even try to fuck her next time (as I would on the first date) so find a way to get her back to your place, cook her dinner, watch a DVD or something... Just make sure you do it. Don't worry about her resisting you or rejecting you, you're wasting your time and she's losing attraction every time you go for a date without escalating.

Author:  Burgerian [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Escalation help

Seems she doesn't hate you.
By the way,
I live in shanghai china too.
If you need a friend for wing then msg me.
just let's do it!

Author:  stringfellow on sticks [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:30 am ]
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Good luck with it all mate!

I was delighted to read the word "shagged" in your original post! Splendid! Haha!

(I'm an exiled Englishman too!)

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