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Author:  Shyler [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Shy girl
I opened this thread to get a better insight on shy girls, how to game them.

Lately, I'm gaming this shy girl. She is very smart, creative and talented, but somehow she is socialy uncomfortble. She doesn't say much, and she is very insecure about what she says. She is tall(er), well shaped, brunnette, a HB8, but still, instead of being very open or even arogant, she is very shy. She is in my workgroup, and everyone is new. But instead of socialising, she is just there, not making any effort to get to know many people.

I gamed her quite well in the introduction week 2 weeks ago. She didn't show much interest in anyone, but when I was fooling around with some guys, she was always watching behind us. When I did or said something stupid but funny, she had to laugh always with me. Receiving these big IOI's, I started gaming, teasing and getting to know her. I am mostly very cautious with shy girls, but with her I act alfa.

During that college introduction week, I saw her pretty much, so we hanged quite a lot. In class she always sat next to me, and she almost only spoke with me. Now introduction week is over and class has began.
I now only see her once a week. I didn't want to lose attraction, so as soon as my mobile phone was fixed, I wanted to get her number. When I was chatting with her on facebook, I casualy asked (read: demanded) her number so that we could meet later in the night when going out with the rest of the group. But when she gave it me, she added "but don't stalk me all the time :S". Hearing this of a shy girl saying it by facebook, kind of turned me off. I was maybe also affraid that I have been too obvious in my game. The result was that I didn't send her a message that night to meet up.

4 days later, she was online very late. So I opened her with "still awake at this hour of the day? :p". She answered that she was going to sleep very soon. But she kept on talking to me. She asked me why I didn't send her a text message. She asked me three times where I went out and with who. She sounded quite upset. I gave her a good reason (the rest of the group didn't go out so I went out with my roommates, which was true), and everything was ok again. It seemed that she went to the same bar as I did earlier that night and that I had to send her a text message to meet each other. Plenty of IOI's. I told her I would make it up with her if she would behave and said other cocky funny things.

Today I saw her again. I talked with her and teased her a bit. But again she didn't do anything to be social with the rest. I didn't had much eye contact with her in class, and, as she always has done the weeks before, went away as first without saying bye to anyone.

To build up attraction and such I was thinking of going to town during day time to do some things, and then spontaneously calling her like "hey I'm in town now! I decided that you were a good girl today, so we could hang out and chill somewhere in town." or something like that.

I would like to have some tips on this, how to behave towards shy girls etc.

Thanks :)
Author:  zappo [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:46 pm ]
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I know what you mean , shy girls are a bitch !
At some party I got pretty wasted and i ran routines without realizing it and ended up k-closing a shy girl ( I really wish i remember what i did)

But a word of advice
negs dont realy go well here ( i mean you can bust their balls but dont go over board they usualy have a low self esteem)
Once you k-close her , she will probably become very clingy

Just state directly that she seems shy or uncomfortable and ask her what makes her opposite of this

Shes basically telling you where and when to game her then You can work your magic ;)

And if your shy girl is anything like my shy girl the conversation will basically be 80% you :\ which suxs
Author:  ProjectTM [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:20 pm ]
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Shyler, first off you're doing a good job so far!

The "Don't stalk me all the time" was a neg back to you, her trying some game and trying to be playful on her part. It definitely sounds like she's getting attached to you and attracted. The big question is do you want to "Get with her" and maybe even go for a relationship or just be close friends?

If I were you, I'd call her up for sure, joke around with her to build some comfort and then tell her you're headed into town and she should join you, and go from there. Then when you're together work some fun Keno in.

Good Luck ~MM
Author:  Shyler [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:33 pm ]
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I know what you mean , shy girls are a bitch !
At some party I got pretty wasted and i ran routines without realizing it and ended up k-closing a shy girl ( I really wish i remember what i did)
Well, I prefer to not call girls bitches, because as long as you play the game well, girls will never act bitchy.
But I understand what you are trying to say. But I don't think this girl is a bitch. She is just very unconfident. Also, she smiles alot.
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Just state directly that she seems shy or uncomfortable and ask her what makes her opposite of this

Shes basically telling you where and when to game her then You can work your magic ;)
Does this realy work? I would like to believe that it works, but I wonder if it does. Isn't it showing too much "I'm interested in you" ?
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And if your shy girl is anything like my shy girl the conversation will basically be 80% you :\ which suxs
Actualy she does try to keep the conversation rolling. But maybe I do speak like 60-70% of the time. There are 2 things I like about shy girls: 1) they have a cute smile and they're just cute, 2) I think they're a challenge because I believe that, if I do it right, I can open them up.


I went to town today, and I "casualy" sended a text message to her, something like "hey this is your lucky day! I need to do some things here and since you're a local you can help me. So come to town for half an hour would be chill. X". She answered with "Haha Shyler, I have to work right now. What do you have to do?". I answered with "I got to buy some stuff for college, and if you would be a good girl I might have take you for a drink somewhere :P. but I don't dind what I need :s."
Haven't got an answer since then. I got to work more on my text game.

So what do you think what I should do next? Should I wait a few days before trying to meet her again?
I'm affraid that if I would text her, ask her to hang out or whatever, I might come off like I'm trying to game her too obvious. I would break contact for a while, so that she might start to worry and/or so that she may initiate contact. But then again, I don't know if shy girls are that initiative or spontaneous because of their insecurity.
Author:  Bmitchell1876 [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:53 pm ]
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I love shy girls !! Here's my take on the situation... She definitely likes you and she's talking about you to her friends.... One thing you can absolutely count on is EVERY shy girl has a "friend" that she shares everything with... Its either a LJBF guy that is trying to cock block every guy that comes her way our its a girl... The next time you have a chance to talk with her ask her about her best friend, who is it, what they are like, etc... This will help you understand her 100% more than you do now...

Overall your doing great... Just don't get too frustrated when she acts a little weird sometimes... Its either her lack of self confidence or bad advice from her friends...or her awkward game... Stick to the cocky funny routines and don't be afraid to sexualize your dates as quickly as the out going girls... They just want someone to LEAD THEM to be the sexy vixen they have locked up inside !
The worst thing you can do is treat her like she's different than the other girls... The good news is SHE LIKES YOU!! so go get it !! Put the ball in her court, say "I'm taking you out for drinks next week whether you like it or not... All you have to do is tell me what day and I'll take it from there !!"

Let me know what happens...
Author:  zappo [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:48 pm ]
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Nooo you got me all wrong :) I didn't mean shy girls are all bitches . I used the word bitch as in Lifes a bitch :P
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Does this realy work? I would like to believe that it works, but I wonder if it does. Isn't it showing too much "I'm interested in you" ?
Ok imagine someone says to you , that you looked uncomfortable ( someone that you respected or want to win over) Its going to play on your mind and your going to make more of an effort . Or your going to make an excuse for your behavior e.g. " Its just I have had a long day at work " this tells me that you increase your chances of getting further with her on her day off

In a way its a way of re framing her behavior to suit you :)

And yeah I like shy girls too :)
Author:  Shyler [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:52 pm ]
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Hmm that does make sense. But when and how would you literaly say that (like in a routine)?

In a convo where I talk more and she acts a bit shy and insecure:

Me: hey you seem a bit shy!

Now she can always answer with "no I'm not!", or she can be non-responsive and look away. That's the danger with direct cold reading, so I think it should be better formulated. I don't know if shy girls realy want to her from someone else that she's is shy, because it will understate her negativity and insecurity about herself, so she might feel insulted. Or that's what I think about it. But if she would response well, then I think it is a great thing to do.

shy girl: you think so? / blushes/ yeah I know I have always been like that/ whatever
me: how/when do you open up with people actualy?

The idea sounds good, but again it sounds a bit silly.

And what if things go well and I manage to set a few dates ... should I escalate fast or should I only try to get very intimate after a few dates?
Author:  zappo [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:32 pm ]
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Hmm that does make sense. But when and how would you literaly say that (like in a routine)?


Its hard for me to pinpoint exactly in a routine . Maybe make a bullshit comment about her body language e.g. " You can tell a lot by a persons body language "
her " really ? , what does mine say"
you " well it says you seem shy , yet your happy ...... yada yada ya "
Or just say it as it is " you seem shy" , but have a curious look on your face ( if you get me )
Or " you seem to be more open this time , I had you as the shy girl , I like this :)"


If she gets offended then just say its cute that shes shy
Or just go along with her being offended like your not bothered and say " I bet your scared of pigeons as well "
Its worth a shot at least , Its all about setting the frame about her not being shy (by making her proove to you that shes not shy)

and if she says " no no im not" then reply with " well why are you being so defensive about it ;) "

If she doesn't say anything and looks away ( then this is a perfect opportunity ) just say " look their you are being shy again "

( just remember your delivery , your not attacking her or being aggressive , your just making an observation in a acquisitive manner and if she gets offended then continue with it but in a more light hatred funny way.

Oh and don't directly ask her when she opens up to people . Maybe just say something embarrassing you did before ( lie and make up a story) and then just casually say " whats the most embarrassing thing that you have done".

basically you tell her something about yourself and then ask her to tell you something about herself ( ok its rapport but you want her to feel comfortable )

as soon as you can make her feel comfortable the next big step is trying to make her feel comfortable being involved in a sexual conversation ( thats fxcking hard :\ )

Oh and escalate at a pace that you feel is right but theirs a big gap between first kiss and sex :(
Author:  bits [ Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:45 am ]
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Based on what you're telling us and my own experience with a shy girl, I would recommend you the following:

- She is already attracted to you. Now make your move, escalate!
- The 'classic' approach probably works best: It's a shy girl, she wants to be swept off her feet and experience that romance from the novels she reads. It's not the kind of girl that you can properly escalate with in public, therefor you should find something more quiet.
I had a shy girl once. My escalation attempts weren't really working, and therefor I geared back: We went for a walk outside, and I casually grabbed her hand, because she was walking too fast. As soon as she noticed I wasn't going to let go, she locked hands, and the game was on. It was calm, subtle, but from that moment she actually started preparing the logistics for a kclose, and all I had to do was to follow her to some place private.

Meet up, walk to the park and back to her/your home, and you're in. Good luck!
Author:  newtonian [ Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:47 am ]
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Shy girls are not always truly shy. Most of them have game like I have never seen. PUAs have to learn this. Most of them are doing a lot of push pull subliminally. They will hook you in and then make you feel like crap if you don't meet their needs. Not worth it....move on.
Author:  V3nu [ Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:10 am ]
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Shy girls are a pain in the ass beacuse of 80/20 talking ration, but I feel ya on the concept that they are really cute, I would even say "cuddly" lol.

I'm kind of in a similar position (in college too, met this girl, who is really shy) as I kind of like this girl but she is really shy too, and two days ago I got pist at the fact that she is so shy and I just basically told her she is really depressing every time I talk to her and I feel she is like an emo girl. I KNOW really mean but god shy girls are so frustrating.

But I was reading all the posts in the thread and I will give it another shot relating to this:
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Hmm that does make sense. But when and how would you literaly say that (like in a routine)?

In a convo where I talk more and she acts a bit shy and insecure:

Me: hey you seem a bit shy!

Now she can always answer with "no I'm not!", or she can be non-responsive and look away. That's the danger with direct cold reading, so I think it should be better formulated. I don't know if shy girls realy want to her from someone else that she's is shy, because it will understate her negativity and insecurity about herself, so she might feel insulted. Or that's what I think about it. But if she would response well, then I think it is a great thing to do.

shy girl: you think so? / blushes/ yeah I know I have always been like that/ whatever
me: how/when do you open up with people actualy?

The idea sounds good, but again it sounds a bit silly.

And what if things go well and I manage to set a few dates ... should I escalate fast or should I only try to get very intimate after a few dates?
Basically telling her: "Hey I just wanna apologize about last time you know you kind of frustrated me as I just had a hard time trying to interact with you, I feel like you are a really shy person maybe just with me, I'm not sure, but I feel like you are really cool person but I at the same time I feel you have this wall and I'm having a hard getting through it and getting to know THE REAL YOU, you know what I mean? ....(she answers or if she doesn't) tell me something you are really passionate about"

Basically dig deeper into her passions, family, etc. All the comfort/emotional/value elicitation stuff.... Which I never do as it never comes to it ... you know bar, meet girl, have sex, cave man style haha

But with this shy girls I feel like you really need to go into hard comfort and making them open them up, and that is the real challenge, not the attraction or closing, the opening up part and making her comfortable with you is the most important part...

On the side note I just thought of "reciprocation" just by revealing something emotional and deep about yourself FIRST (you can lie about it if you want) there is a high chance she will do the same....

But anyways, keep us updated, and I will do the same once I try this "emotional opening" stuff with my girl.
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Shy girls are not always truly shy. Most of them have game like I have never seen. PUAs have to learn this. Most of them are doing a lot of push pull subliminally. They will hook you in and then make you feel like crap if you don't meet their needs. Not worth it....move on.
lol, Seems like someone had a shitty experience!!
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