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NOONE HAS EVER TALKED ABOUT THIS SO TELL ME HOW!?
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Author:  Legend12345 [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:27 pm ]
Post subject:  NOONE HAS EVER TALKED ABOUT THIS SO TELL ME HOW!?
Hey guys, Legend here and the worst thing happend to me today, well I'm in american eagle and the girl at the cash register was SUPER CUTE , now I didn't plan to go sarging but I displayed some natural game and was talking to her for about 20min, I even found out we had the same birthday! (Seriously -.- what are the odds)

Now the problem is I DIDNT number close T__T, not because I didn't want to I just didnt know how to pull it off, I mean shes the cashier her co worker was there just doing her thing and I didnt use any routines so it would have been strange to just try and get the number without any DHV's or something to build attraction, but we did have a nice little chat.

When I left the store both of my wings were like WTF!!? WHY DIDNT U BOOK HER SHE WAS FINE WTF!? The only thing I could do was try to tell them Idk how I would have pulled it off. I'm going this wendsday so GUYS MASTER PUA'S ANYONE WHO HAS ADVICE ON HOW I CAN CLOSE THIS HB8 PLZ PLZ PLZ let me know dont just read and not reply :P Thanks all advice is MUCH! appreciated.

(btw she isnt my oneitis or anything if it doesnt work out oh well I got more girls lined up I just want to pass this sticking point because its happend more than once)
Author:  Ezo [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:05 pm ]
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There are loads of posts on numberclosing man...

You arent telling us anything about the conversation or anything at all actually, just that you didnt use routines. And you say it feels wierd to close without DHVing... I dont get it. Whats the problem.

DHV is just a step in the M3 model that you can skip if you have got attraction. Either you use a routine and get the DHV part over with or you just go without routines.

Just say: Hey we should hang out, write the number down, if shes into you, shell give it to you. If not. I guess next time you gotta actually game her.

One of the reasons that we normally dont talk about this kind of thing is that hey we dont game the same girls over and over. Basically, you got one shot and then... next.
Author:  Legend12345 [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:10 pm ]
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Thanks for the reply, if it doesn't work out with her fine, I just want to test my limits, in the conversation we basically talked about clothes? lol nothing that wasn't related to her work and I didn't know how to transition from talk about sighning up for this or that into something non work related and tips on that?

Also, there was no kino, I didn't know how to do transit into that either, now im thinking I could have done maybe thumb wrestling? or same birthday sweet i'll show you something cool: blah blah blah . *Sigh* I wish I could go back in time
Author:  Ezo [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:12 pm ]
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Well, either you are good in a conversation and can spontaneously come up with cool stuff to say or you may want to use routines.

Either way, "We should hang out sometime" works wonders for me. It is non threatening, you dont expect anything and you dont promise anything. No strings attached.
Author:  Legend12345 [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:23 pm ]
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Thank you so much Ezo really appreciate it. Do you think I should go back? and if so do you think I need to open her, right now im thinking if I do I should say something clever about how our birthdays r the same or something and then maybe move into one of those chick crack routines, but idk I'm still naive and young in the pickup community
Author:  Ezo [ Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:01 am ]
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I would treat her like a friend. Just a bit more teasing. You need to fly under the radar.

Like, Hey birthday girl! Give her a nickname thats special. Pretend that you already know each other.

No need to open, just talk to her. You can always build attraction later, no matter what others say. Sure it is easier the first time but not impossible to improve.

Create an our world conspiracy, internal jokes and such!
Author:  technoslaughter [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:23 am ]
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I have students that eject all the time. The funny thing is they never think to go back. So I always tell them, "If you liked her and left her hanging, go back and get the damn number. It's the right and natural thing to do after a great convo."

Nothing wrong with going back. If she gives it to you great, If not make sure there is no company policy against it and hand her yours so she at least has a shot. Or set up an instadate. No reason you can't go back, especially while your wings or instructor are saying "WTF!" I send them back in all the time to show you can go back and still get the number. I always use, "Hey, I got so caught up in the conversation, when I walked out I realized how great it was. Let's continue this conversation. put your number here. (hand her the phone...)
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