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| Author: | DrexelScott [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
90% of guys in the community seem to have the exact same sticking point: Approach goes well, number close goes well, date goes well, girl comes over... ...and the guy has no clue what to do. No plan, no strategy, kind of just hoping that it will work out magically. Needless to say, that almost never works, then the girl disappears forever because the guy was too much of a pussy to be the leader she was looking for. Listen--women want and need YOU to be the LEADER. If you want to sweep women off their feet, the very first time she comes over, so that she literally says to you "holy shit, that's been a fantasy of mine for years"...then you need to stop hoping that she will make the first move. She won't. She isn't going to take her clothes off and pounce on you, 95% of the time. And guys never have a plan, at all. Just..."uh, escalate, and persist! Gee whiz, why does this never work?" It never works because that isn't what women want. They don't want resistance and persistence--at least, not more than a tiny amount, and sometimes not even that. It should feel SMOOTH and EASY and FUN for her. But she can only do that by following YOUR LEAD. Hence, if you are not LEADING, she has nothing to follow. When she has nothing to follow, she gets anxious and frustrated, which leads DIRECTLY to what you are mistakenly calling "last minute resistance" when in fact, she is just really uncomfortable with the idea of sleeping with a guy who has no idea what he is doing. If you want to solve this problem, you need to have an actual strategy, and an actual game plan. Steps. One, then the next, then the next, so she can just RELAX and follow your lead right up until the very end--when you fuck the shit out of her. That is the universal female fantasy--the thing they ALL want. Can be done anywhere, so long as you have an actual structure in place that you know like the back of your hand. Then, you just take each woman through the exact same process...and get the same results over and over again. And voila...instead of ending every date frustrated and lonely, suddenly you start closing on almost every single one and the problem disappears forever. Probably the biggest sticking point in the entire community, like I said, and also one of the most easily-solved. Just in case you were wondering... |
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| Author: | R.C [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
Why are you writing like dtrak? Nobody likes dtrak. |
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| Author: | Dragula [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
Quote: Why are you writing like dtrak? Nobody likes dtrak.
Haha |
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| Author: | Don Horneone [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
So what's the plan? You might as well post "I suggesting getting from A to B using some form of transportation" |
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| Author: | DrexelScott [ Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
Quote: So what's the plan? You might as well post "I suggesting getting from A to B using some form of transportation"
Personally, I set up my entire household specifically to bring her through a "funnel" towards the close. Room by room is planned out ahead of time, with items planted to stimulate certain conversations.The close rate is astronomically higher when you are doing the same thing with every women and just taking her through the motions. Guys who just hope it will work out, almost never close unless the girl is super horny and aggressive. |
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| Author: | R.C [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
This is bullshit. |
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| Author: | Don Horneone [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
Quote: Quote: So what's the plan? You might as well post "I suggesting getting from A to B using some form of transportation"
Personally, I set up my entire household specifically to bring her through a "funnel" towards the close. Room by room is planned out ahead of time, with items planted to stimulate certain conversations.The close rate is astronomically higher when you are doing the same thing with every women and just taking her through the motions. Guys who just hope it will work out, almost never close unless the girl is super horny and aggressive. |
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| Author: | DrexelScott [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
Quote: This is bullshit.
Been working for me for half a decade, and my coaching clients would disagree. But hey man if what you're doing is working, no worries, just carry on--no need to be a hater.
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| Author: | DrexelScott [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
Quote: Quote: Quote: So what's the plan? You might as well post "I suggesting getting from A to B using some form of transportation"
Personally, I set up my entire household specifically to bring her through a "funnel" towards the close. Room by room is planned out ahead of time, with items planted to stimulate certain conversations.The close rate is astronomically higher when you are doing the same thing with every women and just taking her through the motions. Guys who just hope it will work out, almost never close unless the girl is super horny and aggressive. |
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| Author: | Finished [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
When OP's entire house set up goes wrong... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtmmI9JCCUo |
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| Author: | R.C [ Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
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Man, some of the posters here are just straight up haters. Someone shares value, says what works and why most guys tend to have the exact same sticking point, and some of you just come on with passive aggressive comments and attack rather than asking for details or trying it for yourself. Nobody's ever learned anything that way.
I think calling this bullshit can hardly be considered "passive" aggressive. We didn't try it for ourselves? that's like saying "you didn't try walking before running". It's every newbies instinct to plan shit out to the most irrelevant details, yet here you are advocating the reason most guys fail is not planning enough. Quite the opposite. Most guys fail because they plan so damn much and get stuck up in their head. They don't need more planning, they need the proper balls to act on their desires. |
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| Author: | DrexelScott [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
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Man, some of the posters here are just straight up haters. Someone shares value, says what works and why most guys tend to have the exact same sticking point, and some of you just come on with passive aggressive comments and attack rather than asking for details or trying it for yourself. Nobody's ever learned anything that way.
I think calling this bullshit can hardly be considered "passive" aggressive. We didn't try it for ourselves? that's like saying "you didn't try walking before running". It's every newbies instinct to plan shit out to the most irrelevant details, yet here you are advocating the reason most guys fail is not planning enough. Quite the opposite. Most guys fail because they plan so damn much and get stuck up in their head. They don't need more planning, they need the proper balls to act on their desires. |
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| Author: | R.C [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
That last comment added more value than you entire OP Because it's actual useful information. |
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| Author: | JackZero [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
Quote: Quote: Quote:
Man, some of the posters here are just straight up haters. Someone shares value, says what works and why most guys tend to have the exact same sticking point, and some of you just come on with passive aggressive comments and attack rather than asking for details or trying it for yourself. Nobody's ever learned anything that way.
I think calling this bullshit can hardly be considered "passive" aggressive. We didn't try it for ourselves? that's like saying "you didn't try walking before running". It's every newbies instinct to plan shit out to the most irrelevant details, yet here you are advocating the reason most guys fail is not planning enough. Quite the opposite. Most guys fail because they plan so damn much and get stuck up in their head. They don't need more planning, they need the proper balls to act on their desires. The point I think that you've really missed is that if you get a girl back to your place then your first thought should be that she's agreed to allow you to attempt to escalate to the next step. Meaning, if the two of you have already kissed then she is willing to take the kiss a step further. The reason people are "hating" on your advice is because you didn't really nail where the sticking point actually existed. It's not being a leader or getting her to relax. It's because there was no momentum in building a sexual vibe before even arriving at your place. It's her not seeing you as a sexual being. This shouldn't happen after she sees conversation pieces in your home. This should be happening between the time you open a conversation with her and you asking her to meet up with you. |
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| Author: | Finished [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Reason You Drop The Ball Back At Your Place |
I'll actually chime in with something a little more serious on this one now instead of fucking around. I'm not against making your pad a little more compatible for having a fun time and sex with girls. For example.. I keep a pack of cards in case I feel like playing strip poker with a girl in my bottom draw and a "Supersex" book by Tracy Cox that I let girls read through from time to time to spice things up a little if I feel it's appropriate. My guitar is usually always next to my bed, I have set playlists plugged into a good sound system that allows me to set the mood and I also have completely black bed covers that I rarely ever wash (The smell of sex and messed up bed covers is actually a massive turn on for most girls... it also means I have to aim my load somewhere on her so I don't mess them up lol, double whammy) and also a light with different dimmer settings. I do all of this for me though. This is me, my lifestyle and I like having it this way for now. However, if you pay to much attention to this sort of stuff and go trying to make your whole place impressive to girls, you've already lost because it's far too supplicating and needy. They should just be things that you think are fun and how you want your place as a bachelor, which is completely different to what was being described in the OP, which was more you need all of these things just to get laid. Do you really give that much of a shit anyway lol? In reality, you should be able to get the pussy without it all. You are saying to take each girl through exactly the same steps to get the same results. This might sound kind of logical from a theory standpoint, but from real life experience with women this is far from how it happens. You can't do the exact same thing with every girl. Some are different, they have different situations, personalities, morals, how sexually open they are. Some girls you can pin up against the wall and finger bang them before you even get to the bed the moment you get in, others might take half an hour of sweet talk and kissing before they even let you near their panties. It is all about calibration. At the core they are attracted to leadership qualities, but none of this is really showing leadership, that should be done in other ways. It also isn't one of the biggest sticking points in the community, it's not even really a sticking point, I've met a lot of guys who are for some reason interested in seduction and planning out their pad to funnel girls is by far nowhere near their biggest problem. Even if I could take every girl through the exact same process I don't think I would anyway. Where is the fun in that? I'm all about pushing my comfort zone, learning new shit and having new experiences. |
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