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Author:  ricadams1010 [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
Hello guys,

I met this girl off okc (she liked my profile) and went on a date with her. We had fun times, holding hands, kissing on the cheek, had lots of conversations...I first tried the "do you want to kiss me" style move but it didn't work...later, I again tried to kiss her (after 2 hours) but she said no! so I stopped. Also, during the first date, I had told her how I like being very straighforward ( I was trying elements from mode one).

Anyway, we parted ways. I asked her out again...today, she sent me a message saying that since I said I like being honest, she wants to be honest and she doesn't feel "the romantic thing" for me (she is french, so she didn't use good english). but, she said that she really liked talking to me and asked me if i still wanted to meet... i played it cool and said yes, it was fun...let's meet..

this was her exact message :-
"You asked, what is important for me for a relationship with a man. What I d like is to know that it is true, that i am very well with the guy. I don't feel it with you. But I like our conversations. knowing that, will you loose your time this evening if we meet or not?"


Now I meeting her today evening...but I don't know what to make of her statements...
Should I play it cool and still act interested and make moves or should I act like I should be qualifying her ?

thanks,
Ric
Author:  Dragula [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
If you value your time you should stick to being 'honest' and just tell her if you were both to meet, it would be for romantic purposes only and that you're not looking for anymore friends.

The reason she wants to meet as friends because lonely foreign girls tend to use dating websites as networking sites till they build them self an orbiter goon platoon.

If you do have the time, meet her up, take her to the club, get her drunk and try to kiss like how normal people hook up.
Author:  ricadams1010 [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
Yeah, I was debating whether I should stick to honesty but it has usually not worked well for me in past. I have been debating for a while whether being honest with the girl works better because it seems like it doesn't ... So, this time I decided to go with being dishonest :P ...time is not exactly an issue for today's date...though I wouldn't want to go for like six dates without any romantic interest...

She is not a foreigner ... I live in france... she is local and have been living here for all her life...I am a foreigner here...
Author:  ricadams1010 [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
Though, I am thinking if she gives a hard time (like saying no to going to a bar or saying she has to leave early), I will try a freeze out...as in just leave and not reply to her ever...I have never done that to a girl..wondering how it should work ?
Author:  Dragula [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
Some girls say they wanna hang out but they wont find the time, but if she will wants to hang out...then like I said, just get her drunk on the dance floor and do normal hook up method

If that doesn't work, move on and not waste more time. (if it was me)
Author:  textytext [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
Quote:
Some girls say they wanna hang out but they wont find the time, but if she will wants to hang out...then like I said, just get her drunk on the dance floor and do normal hook up method

If that doesn't work, move on and not waste more time. (if it was me)
intensionally trying to intoxicate a woman to hookup with her can lead to very bad results (like rape or rape accusations). i wouldn't call this normal or even good for gaming.

however, the advice on valuing time is spot on. you really have to decide if this is something you want to pursue. she's actually seems like a decent respectful person. she actually was straight up with you about how she felt. alot of women (people don't do this). she could have just let you guessing and froze you out. if she's genuinely willing to go out with you again, she's leaving you an opening but letting you know that for now you are in the friend zone (which is hard for you to get out of). so you can use her like a friend aka wingwoman and get other woman with her at your side. or you can just try to build an actual connection with her before kiss attempt.
if you try to build a connection then the pebbles idea of dancing would be a good one because it can lead to alot of physical escalation without you really trying. i would recommend something like salsa where you have to hold each other. leave out type of dancing that can be done solo like techno or typical club stuff.
remember your problem wasn't being honest or straight forward it was just that you didn't build a connection first.
Author:  Dragula [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
Quote:
intensionally trying to intoxicate a woman to hookup with her can lead to very bad results (like rape or rape accusations). i wouldn't call this normal or even good for gaming.
Then the 90% of the world's men are rapists.
Author:  ricadams1010 [ Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
I had another date with her. Again lots of fun, lots of kino kissing on the cheek, hugging, holding hands .... she doesn't mind me touching her lips, her thighs, her hair, her neck...but still no kiss :( I didn't make an attempt, though I came very close many times...She told me she met someone else and the guy didn't like him but she felt "love at first sight"-bullshit and she doesn't think it's a good idea for her to force herself to do something...

It's funny how many times I am striking out with this kinda of bullshit...either I don't get second dates, or now when I got a second date, again this bullshit ! Sad situation especially because I have to focus on my work now and can't constantly work towards a rotating door of dates ...

I felt like if I grovel in this case, I might get something, but that's not what I wanted to do when I starting this pua stuff...the whole point was to change the situation so that I have higher control...but unfortunately my work and other issues in life are suffering a lot now and i have to cut down on this part...wish life was easier :(
Author:  sarabellum [ Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
Quote:
Hello guys,
I was trying elements from mode one...

Anyway, we parted ways. I asked her out again...today, she sent me a message saying that since I said I like being honest, she wants to be honest and she doesn't feel "the romantic thing" for me (she is french, so she didn't use good english...
Ric, she is French. In France, men and women are exclusively Mode 1 on each other, "spend the night with me, Oui? I want you." No games. No small talk. Pure straight talk in France. French folk are cool, romantic, and well-versed in everything. As my former French girlfriend said to me, "American men are slobs, who do not know how to match their clothes. You are super magnet. I want to make love to you." My answer, "oui."

Walk away, Ric. Better yet, run. You are being led down the path to being a punk.
Author:  R.C [ Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
Romance kinda goes out the window when you run scripted game on her. I'm very much against bullshit like Styles' "do you wanna kiss me" crap.

Maybe take that into consideration, it's never worked wonders for anyone I know.
Author:  ricadams1010 [ Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
I don't believe that scripted routines don't work at all. However, I agree this "do you want to kiss me" one is super-cheesy...first and last time I tried it...

agreed about mode one - I did try to do that in this case... but, it's not so easy to directly going from being a nice guy to asking a girl to sleep with me in first 5 minutes...but, i am working on it and i will get there...
Author:  Myrth [ Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: a bit urgent ! 2nd date tonight !
Don't ask - kiss - Move in, gently , go for the lips, then tongue. Any resistance, have a charming response ready. Say something funny, then try again...
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