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| Author: | christian19 [ Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | girl w "boyfriend"wanted to fuck but went south last night |
this girl i haven't talked to since June last time i saw her we made out and she had a BF back then and we recently started talking again. last night (Saturday) she wanted to hangout but was being flaky and i convinced her. once i saw her last night i started with rapport and light touching and progressed through the night. we went down stairs to get Gatorade. i asked her so does Ur friend know about me she said "yeah ur the only guy i have cheated on with my boyfriend and gave me smile" at first i didn't hear her well "whats that?" she said "dont worry about in a playful tone". After, she started saying lets get you drunk. i haven't drank in awhile either so mentioned that to her. once i realized on what she said. i started hugging her and said "i know that what we did last time(meaning making out), but i don't think its going to happen tonight" "why not?!?" she said "BC I'm shy" i told her i tired to disqualify myself. (what was trying to do her was take objections she would be saying to me and switch roles play so she would be the one trying to fuck me that night.) as i told her that i haven't drank in awhile. - "the first shots the worst, i cant do it (joking around). call me out. call me a bitch, tell me i got a small dick, and that im unattractive and if i dont do this i suck(being playful)" -i dont tell lies she said after i finished drinking, we move to the couch and watched a movie we cuddled, we were holding hands, she was resting on me, put my hands between her legs by the vag and at one point put her hand close to my dick and she was fine with it. i didn't build much into attraction phase bc she mentioned before she found me physically attractive. i didn't think i had to build much after that. (is that bad or no, should i still of kept with the attraction phase?) so we practically sat down cuddled the whole time i built rapport saying "where she would like to travel to", "moving schools, her biggest dreams" etc. from here on i kept making kept eye contact and looking at her lips and eye she did the same while we talked throughout the night. so i went for it and she started making out but i made the mistake of not pulling first she ended up doing it. first mistake. i realized this. after she pulled away. she wasn't sitting next to me anymore she moved to end of the couch. so i collaborated instead going back in to make out. build it to that point where we started cuddling again. i started to disqualify her and she started to validate herself to me on other things. but when i said this she didn't validate herself me -i would give that make out a 4 out of 10(and this bugged her all night.) -you think im a bad kisser why should i make out you again. -i know you can do better. prove me wrong. -i dont think i should. i ignored her. i started to build rapport again easing into sexual topics. and she was receptive to them. she asked me about my sex life and what id do to a girl etc. i got shit test at one point about being a player took it as a compliment. i started to making out with her again. we were laying on the couch she was enjoying it. then when i started to put her hand down my pants she got up and said i cant do this. (i think i put her pulled her close to my dick to soon it was 14 seconds in) she said she wants to but she cant commit and felt bad bc of her BF (a few minutes after she told me they were on break since last week.)and that's why i invited you over she told me. After this she told me alright you gotta go. I ignored it. at this point with she didn't wanna make out anymore. she kept bringing up on how "i was 4 out 10 making out" since I'm a bad kisser i shouldn't make out with anymore "... i just told her "come over here lets fix that" she didn't want make out. why didnt she just makeout with me again to prove me wrong For the rest of the night I kept trying to go for the kiss/make out but she was turning her cheek and/or just teasing me by sucking on my neck or just giving me a light kiss. from here on when i either disqualified her she just agreed with and didn't validate herself to me, why? besides that what other method i could of used to build it back to making out to close. i kept doing this all night (disqualifying her ). i wanted to seed the pull by disqualifying myself like "i cant tn" or whatever but what i realize is that i tired to disqualify her or neg(u got small boobs and she validated herself ) she really didn't have small tits at all haha. i wanted her to think im a guy with options. and that she should fuck me. lastly, we just talked for the rest of the night we cuddled. i kept trying to escalate but she kept brushing me off and she was being a tease. I need advice. the things i shouldnt of and should of done. i wanna know so when something similar comes i along in the future i don't fail again. of anything needs to be cleared up ask. i like to learn from my mistakes. be serious guys. also have text from today if that would help you guys for me to troubleshoot this. |
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| Author: | oceanx [ Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: girl w "boyfriend"wanted to fuck but went south last nig |
You had previously had sex with this girl. It seems like you were running a routine that you may run with a girl you haven't gotten with before. Since you had already been with her, I don't see the need for all the tactics etc. It's possible that she may have been put off by all the dancing around. Reading this I almost believe you didn't really want to fuck her at all. The push-pull of you saying "it's not going to happen tonight" and then rating her a 4 out of 10 on the makeout was un-needed. She was down, wanting to get you drunk and saying "why not!?!" when you took sex off the table. Her backing out was a way to avoid the ultimate disappointment of you pulling the plug on sex which you already said you would do. Drop all the game tricks. Just assume comfort and roll. |
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| Author: | christian19 [ Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: girl w "boyfriend"wanted to fuck but went south last nig |
Quote: You had previously had sex with this girl. It seems like you were running a routine that you may run with a girl you haven't gotten with before. Since you had already been with her, I don't see the need for all the tactics etc. It's possible that she may have been put off by all the dancing around. Reading this I almost believe you didn't really want to fuck her at all.
The push-pull of you saying "it's not going to happen tonight" and then rating her a 4 out of 10 on the makeout was un-needed. She was down, wanting to get you drunk and saying "why not!?!" when you took sex off the table. Her backing out was a way to avoid the ultimate disappointment of you pulling the plug on sex which you already said you would do. Drop all the game tricks. Just assume comfort and roll. i did not have sex with her previously. last time i saw her we made out and this was when she had a boyfriend I couldn't logistically escalate to get the close back then. we were outside a party and her boyfriend was calling her. so we left it at that. and i haven't talked to this girl since June and we recently started talking about a week ago. its been awhile since everything that happened back then so i felt like everything just fizzled out. and i had to look at it as a brand new set. when i meet up with her yesterday ideally. i thought she still had a boyfriend. so what i wanted to do was. pretend like it was in a new set and build attraction, rapport, escalate, close. i wanted to seed the pull by disqualifying myself like "i cant tn" or whatever but what i realize is that i tired to disqualify her or neg(u gto small boobs and she validated herself ) to get her to think im a guy with options. and that she should fuck me. "when i said it not going to happen to tn" after that being said i showed my intentions making escalating and making out this show i am interest and i put her hand near my dick implying i wanted to move forward. she pushed me off saying because of her bf and the negs. i didnt think iwas taking sex of the table by then. what should i have the routine for this type of girl looked like then exactly? and when would seeding the pull by disqualifying myself or her be appropriate when...... |
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| Author: | oceanx [ Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: girl w "boyfriend"wanted to fuck but went south last nig |
Quote: i did not have sex with her previously.
More details were needed then in the original post, because you stated in the OP:Quote: she said "yeah ur the only guy i have cheated on with my boyfriend"
From that it clearly appeared you had previously hooked up with her as in had sex.i started hugging her and said "i know that what we did last time, but i don't think its going to happen tonight "why not?!?" she said With the new knowledge that you hadn't had sex with her previously the set makes a lot more sense and looks ok although a little harsh with all the negging & disqualifying & pushpull. Try sprinkling in less of that with the next girls. Be careful with 'small boobs' comments. Being a challenge is great but be mindful about trying not to pile on too much of it. In actuality none of the DQ/pushpull/negs are needed in my experience - women want to feel wanted, and they respond to a guy who is into them more often than not. But your game may differ from mine and I respect that. |
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| Author: | CharlesFinley [ Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: girl w "boyfriend"wanted to fuck but went south last nig |
Your post is absolutely as confusing as fuck. Seriously. You need to edit it and provide relevant details. I have no clue what your relationship with this girl is... if you've fucked her, kissed her, anything... It's 10 times longer than it needs to be. Try a TLDR version - you'll get more responses. |
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