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Author:  guangwang1983 [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:18 pm ]
Post subject:  What have I got myself into here??
I met this girl through a friend of friend. She is a very sweet trainee nurse originally from a small village in the Alps.

Overall she has been on the shy side. The first time we met, I could see she didnt respond well to my kino and I thought she doesnt like me, until she invited me to her city. One day before I was about to go visit her on, she blew me off. I thought she was playing games and I used the famous Ross Jeffrey line, and called her out for wasting my time, which was definitely a huge mistake. We stopped talking for two weeks, then I re-established the contact just a few days ago.

Last weekend, she invited me to a Christmas concert in which her sister was playing. When I was there, I found out half of her family was there too, so instead of creeping behind her all the time and trying to get her attention, I won over her friend, sister, mum and even her grandma. On top of that, these were all done with my broken German, where I have clearly demonstrated social confidence. After the concert and dinner, we finally had a half hour time alone, during which we took a bus together back home. We had very good conversation on the bus, but again she was very shy or even a little uncomfortable to my kino. And it even went a bit awkward when I tried to take her arm before she got on to the train.

After that, I sent her a text saying I enjoyed the time with her and like to see her again, she replied the same. Then I said, maybe I should come over to see her this weekend, to which she replied "I have exams, so I am not free this weekend, but I will be at home after that. You could come there for skiing. It is very nice there and my mother would like to see you again ;-)"

I am a little confused now. Firstly, I dont know why she asks me to see her family when there is 0 between us yet. Secondly, regardless all the IOIs, why she has been this non-responsive to my kino? Maybe she is a just a very shy mountain girl who doesnt know how to express her feeling, but I thought all girls are biologically wired similarly which is why all the PUA stuff works.

What are you guys opinion?
Author:  GamesSN [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:32 pm ]
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I would take the invite to be a fake invite. You know, being nice and all that.

I wouldn't go. I'd make up an excuse, flake on her and continue gaining rapport with her after the break. If she really is as shy as you're making her out to be just take it slow and ask her out on a proper date, let her know you want to take her out and not just go to some family thing as a friend.
Author:  Brem89 [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:49 pm ]
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She could be shy about public affection. You trying to hold her hand may have made her uncomfortable. She may also have a slight social anxiety from the sounds of it. You said she was shy in person, but in a text message she has no problems expressing what she wants to say. It sounds like she likes you, but is just really shy.

If you happen to like her a lot, accept the invite and see what happens.
Author:  guangwang1983 [ Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What have I got myself into here??
Thanks for the advice guys. I think she is genuinely interested. I earlier replied "skiing sounds like a good idea!" without saying anything more. She replied with a thumb up. And then I stopped texting. A few hours later, she replied "ok, write me when you have time.". I take it as in she is getting a bit stressed out because I didn't give clear signal.

I think maybe I could reply and say "btw, where I come from, we go out for dinner first before meeting each others parents. :)" this should serve as a role reversal thing as well as implying I want some time alone with her.

Thoughts?
Author:  GamesSN [ Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:20 am ]
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Let us know how it goes.

The thumbs up to me seems very passive and not very interested. There was so much that could have been said if a person was genuinely interested. But hey, there's other opinions out there. Don't let me put you off.
Author:  guangwang1983 [ Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:09 pm ]
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I completely agree that is a very passive reply. She has always been like this, at the same time asking me out all the time. This along with the uncomfortable kino makes me quite confused. One thing I do know is that I have built good degrees if social pressures by winning over her family.

I will keep you guys updated for sure.
Author:  oceanx [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:09 am ]
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I think she is a shy girl plain and simple, possibly with little experience.

She followed up her thumbs up with 'let me know when you're free'. It is completely obvious that she is interested. Don't need to call her out on the meeting her family thing. Go with the flow, get close to her and escalate. The ski hill chair lift is a perfect opportunity for a kiss close.
Author:  GamesSN [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:22 pm ]
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My advice, if she's really as shy as she's being made out to be, is to be patient. If she likes you and she's this way with you I doubt she'll be fucking other guys or grabbing at their attention. If she is she's got to be a sociopath. In my experience there's actually a lot of women out there like that but you won't meet them where a PUA generally meets women and they generally tend to be more intimidated by cold approaches.

They respond well to a nice smile, slow gestures and getting to know them. She probably doesn't have many guy friends and very few close female friends. If you "take her under your wing" she'll start to have growing feelings for you once you don't AFC and give her everything for nothing in return or bombard her with messages, etc.
Author:  guangwang1983 [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:01 pm ]
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Actually a question about the Kino escalation here. I can normally get through the "innocent and friendly touch" with girls, including this one, without any problem. But when I got further, I dont think I can always read the feedback correctly. For example, if I go touching a girl's lower back, I would not have resistance, but then a second later she would try to sit like half inch away from me. It happened with this girl too. Does it mean that I have gone too far too quickly?

So far, I have been taking that as a no, which I would then immediately IOD her by turning my back to her and show total disinterest.

What are the general rules here for me to escalate?

Thanks lot for the great advice guys. Really appreciate it.
Author:  guangwang1983 [ Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:33 am ]
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so Looks like she is definitely serious. Now I am going to see her on New Years Day for a couple of days. I hope her grandma doesnt show up this time. hehe.

I will keep you guys updated.
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