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Author:  Bronco [ Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  The first phone call/leaving a quality voicemail

Bro's this is the weakest part of my game without a doubt. I am pretty comfortable in person, but could somone give a couple quick thoughts on making that first phone call/leaving the voicemail to a girl you just met the other night in the club? On my side is, I played the evening really well, and she went in for the K Close.

On the "tough to judge" side, is I know I was pretty loose from being about 10 beers deep, and don't know how far she was, but my friend thinks she wasnt too bad.

Anyone with some field tested advice, I'd love to here it. Thanks brothers

Author:  Roland [ Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:21 pm ]
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I'm the exact same situation so I really can't give any advice yet. I'm going to call a girl tomorrow, hope I'm able to give some advice after! Unless I crash 'n burn ofcourse.

Author:  Bronco [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:48 am ]
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so I shot her a text and said "Hey HB it's Bronco from the club friday night in the city. i had a nice time with you, we should do it again"

no response tonight, but i sent it at 7pm.

This was a night where she was just as easily as drunk as I was..which was sloppy. I'm not sure how this is going to play out.. does anyone have any follow up advice?

Author:  Bronco [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:18 pm ]
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come on people, 36 views, only 1 response?

Author:  LOCO [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:19 pm ]
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i wouldve said to show a bit more character in the text, some C&F or whatever but since you sent the text already and theres no reply theres nothing you can do from here without seeming needy.

just wait on her reply i guess, keep busy till then

Author:  Chino Kapone [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:04 pm ]
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The text is kinda the afc way out. The problem is that she might not be able to recieve texts or she just completely ignored you. You don't really know. If she ignored your text and you call, you would look needy. At least if you call her, leave a message you know for sure if shes ignoring you. Right now she has control, and you need to be able to get control back.

If you were comfortable to kiss her, than you should have been comfortable enough to call her.

Next time just call and if you get voicemail leave a breezy message. I dunno, somthing like this.

"What's up hb? This is Bronco. Give me a shout back when you get this."

Just keep it simple. Always make sure you have a reason to call other than just to shoot the shit. If you just feel more comfortable texting, then when she calls back, ignore the call and thats when you can text her. Just text her that you are kinda busy, maybe throw a neg or a lil c/f response and that you will call her later. At that point you have control.

Author:  Bronco [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:41 pm ]
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Thanks for the advice guys.. so then at this point, I pretty much have no control, and if she hits me back I can keep going with it, but if she doesn't, this one is pretty much lost?

Author:  Bronco [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:05 pm ]
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I was thinking wait maybe another day and some time tomorrow, throw a text her way saying something like "you know, i figured you were just a good girl, but maybe when we hooked up you were just really sloppy?" if nothing else I'm thinking it'll piss her off and i'll get a response.

Author:  Arkitekt [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:44 pm ]
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Well, drunken hook-ups are always tricky. It seems that girls have
way worse memory when they are drunk... at least the girls I meet...
oh, wait... haha

Also remember, girls love making out. It's a pastime for them.

Anyway, here is something you may want to experiment with.
Take it with a grain of salt cause I've only thought to try it once
or twice since picking it up from one of David D's interviews:

Drunken-ness aside, if you get a girl's number, call her right
there on the spot and have a quick, fun conversation right in
front of her. Roll play. Tell her you just met this really cool
girl and she is totally staring at you right now.

Now once that's done, guess what? She's just had a fun, quick,
conversation with you OVER THE PHONE. When you call back,
she already has one fun conversation with you under her belt.
The second should be easier.

Another thing you can do is if you two switch phones to give
each other your numbers, don't just put your name in her phone.
Make yourself "Sex Beast" or "Love Muffin" or something like
that. When she gets a call or text from you, it won't be from
Ben or John, it will be from "Studly Masterson". Dude, if she
doesn't remember you from the club, at least the mystery
will be there.

The curiosity may even kill her if she doesn't respond to find out
who the heck this guy is.

Anyway, let's practice preventing the problem instead of
trying to band aid it and fix it after it has happened.

Author:  Chino Kapone [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:49 pm ]
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Thats beautiful Arkitekt.

Studly Masterson made me laugh really hard.

Author:  Arkitekt [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:53 pm ]
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Quote:
Just keep it simple. Always make sure you have a reason to call other than just to shoot the shit.
I'm pretty sure I get what you're saying there, but maybe you could
expand.

Would that reason necessarily be to set up a date or is that the
reason you are saying to call?

Author:  Bronco [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:58 pm ]
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That really was brilliant. Nice work.. I'll give that a try in the future

Great post!

Author:  Chino Kapone [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:16 pm ]
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Quote:
Quote:
Just keep it simple. Always make sure you have a reason to call other than just to shoot the shit.
I'm pretty sure I get what you're saying there, but maybe you could
expand.

Would that reason necessarily be to set up a date or is that the
reason you are saying to call?
Yeah, pretty much. You dont want to linger too long on the phone. Kinda like a bank robery. Get in, grab the goods and get the fuck out. Save the fluff talk for when your hanging out with the chick.

Author:  Roland [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:47 pm ]
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Arkitekt, that advice on switching phones is GOLD. I'll def try that one.
I mean, the HB HAS to pick up when she sees Studly Masterson or whatever!

Bronco, did you call her yet?

Author:  Bronco [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:23 pm ]
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G Donnie- no, on the advice of my roommate I went with the text. Nothing back in about 24 hours

Definitely go with the call in the future, and definitely doing the switching phones or a quick call/txt while in club saying "who's that hottie youre standing next to"...lol....how's your situtation coming?

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