PUA Forum :: Don`t know where I fuck up my "late game"?

I have a problem, I can`t figure it out.. A following situation is repeating itself all the time.. I`m in high school now, my last year then I go to college. I`m not what girls would call an attractive guy but, I`m known as a guy with a great sense of humour, I play guitar at school shows, I have a lot of friends-huge social circle, known as a guy who doesn`t give a fuck about anything etc...
I had a couple of lays so far, fool around with a few girls but that shit happens spontaneously, like a natural game.
I can get a girl get attracted to me and she gives me IOI`s and everything, but if I decide to take it to the next level with one girl, let`s say to be my girlfriend, I`ve always fucked up so far. Now I don`t know what happens.. I can really get a girl to get comfortable with me and all, but then somewhere along the line she blows me off. One girl recently told me that I give a friendly vibe.. Anyways, everything is ok, I build attraction I kiss close and then a few days later she fucks me off. This happens with girls that go to the same school as me. My friends told me that maybe the reason is that I wait too long to do smth- for example, there isn`t many chances to do smth at night, so mostly I gor for a drink and after one or two drinks I make my move-I succeed, but then I get blown off..
I have no problems at one night stands and that kind of stuff.. But when it comes to getting a girlfriend or something, I just can`t do it and I don`t know why. I know how to build a really good connection with a girl, I try to be physical and everything.. But somewhere along the line I fuck up and I don`t know where.. One of the things is that I can get really too much into my head if I like a girl, that`s true, but I think I manage not to show it on the outside..
Maybe this is my flaw, bcs girls really sense when a guy starts to put too much value on her and starts putting her on pedestal, but I really try not to do this or at least not show it (as they say, fake it till you make it).
And ideas where my sticking points could be?

Author:	SidTine [ Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Don`t know where I fuck up my "late game"?
I have a problem, I can`t figure it out.. A following situation is repeating itself all the time.. I`m in high school now, my last year then I go to college. I`m not what girls would call an attractive guy but, I`m known as a guy with a great sense of humour, I play guitar at school shows, I have a lot of friends-huge social circle, known as a guy who doesn`t give a fuck about anything etc... I had a couple of lays so far, fool around with a few girls but that shit happens spontaneously, like a natural game. I can get a girl get attracted to me and she gives me IOI`s and everything, but if I decide to take it to the next level with one girl, let`s say to be my girlfriend, I`ve always fucked up so far. Now I don`t know what happens.. I can really get a girl to get comfortable with me and all, but then somewhere along the line she blows me off. One girl recently told me that I give a friendly vibe.. Anyways, everything is ok, I build attraction I kiss close and then a few days later she fucks me off. This happens with girls that go to the same school as me. My friends told me that maybe the reason is that I wait too long to do smth- for example, there isn`t many chances to do smth at night, so mostly I gor for a drink and after one or two drinks I make my move-I succeed, but then I get blown off.. I have no problems at one night stands and that kind of stuff.. But when it comes to getting a girlfriend or something, I just can`t do it and I don`t know why. I know how to build a really good connection with a girl, I try to be physical and everything.. But somewhere along the line I fuck up and I don`t know where.. One of the things is that I can get really too much into my head if I like a girl, that`s true, but I think I manage not to show it on the outside.. Maybe this is my flaw, bcs girls really sense when a guy starts to put too much value on her and starts putting her on pedestal, but I really try not to do this or at least not show it (as they say, fake it till you make it). And ideas where my sticking points could be?

Author:	AlphaConfidence [ Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:59 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Don`t know where I fuck up my "late game"?
Quote: I have a problem, I can`t figure it out.. A following situation is repeating itself all the time.. I`m in high school now, my last year then I go to college. I`m not what girls would call an attractive guy but, I`m known as a guy with a great sense of humour, I play guitar at school shows, I have a lot of friends-huge social circle, known as a guy who doesn`t give a fuck about anything etc... I had a couple of lays so far, fool around with a few girls but that shit happens spontaneously, like a natural game. I can get a girl get attracted to me and she gives me IOI`s and everything, but if I decide to take it to the next level with one girl, let`s say to be my girlfriend, I`ve always fucked up so far. Now I don`t know what happens.. I can really get a girl to get comfortable with me and all, but then somewhere along the line she blows me off. One girl recently told me that I give a friendly vibe.. Anyways, everything is ok, I build attraction I kiss close and then a few days later she fucks me off. This happens with girls that go to the same school as me. My friends told me that maybe the reason is that I wait too long to do smth- for example, there isn`t many chances to do smth at night, so mostly I gor for a drink and after one or two drinks I make my move-I succeed, but then I get blown off.. I have no problems at one night stands and that kind of stuff.. But when it comes to getting a girlfriend or something, I just can`t do it and I don`t know why. I know how to build a really good connection with a girl, I try to be physical and everything.. But somewhere along the line I fuck up and I don`t know where.. One of the things is that I can get really too much into my head if I like a girl, that`s true, but I think I manage not to show it on the outside.. Maybe this is my flaw, bcs girls really sense when a guy starts to put too much value on her and starts putting her on pedestal, but I really try not to do this or at least not show it (as they say, fake it till you make it). And ideas where my sticking points could be? The problem lies in "fake it till you make it" It comes across as needy and try hard. Women are actually intelligent and smart. They understand when you aren't being genuine. You seem like you're a naturally nice guy, yet your trying to be an Alpha - which is GREAT! But most guys go from "beta nice guy" to "overcompensating asshole/fake alpha" - tone down your "game" a little bit and try to focus on actually connecting with a girl. Be yourself as cliche as that is. It'll drop your lay rate (with insecure girls) but it'll make you more attractive as a "boyfriend" - deal with your personal inner game issues before seeking a LTR.

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