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Author:  scamander [ Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Pro phone game help
I've been texting with this girl for a few days
And last night I asked " so, what do you think of me? What do you like? "
She said I was a really nice guy, and she would like to take me out for a drink.
So we were looking forward to our date this coming Saturday

Today I started to show the fun side of me, she asked how old I was and said that she met lots of guys younger than me which are more mature
I replied saying "well that just makes it more exciting'
She then replied "I don't like excitment"
I said "then hanging out with me might be risky :-)
She then said" so actually, I want to say that we won't be hanging out."

Wtf? Weird situation its just like she is lowering my value and playing me back

Any advice guys?
Author:  Reflex B [ Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:17 am ]
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She may be one of those girls that likes the more refined gentleman, so I'd say just put a suit on and take it slowly, not everyone likes guys that're just supercharged all the time. You can always tell by what they're drinking, if it's scotch or a higher class drink, she's a more refined girl, if it's a beer or margarita, she probably wants someone with a little more energy.
Author:  Dusty-Page [ Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pro phone game help
Quote:
I've been texting with this girl for a few days
And last night I asked " so, what do you think of me? What do you like? "
She said I was a really nice guy, and she would like to take me out for a drink.
So we were looking forward to our date this coming Saturday

Today I started to show the fun side of me, she asked how old I was and said that she met lots of guys younger than me which are more mature
I replied saying "well that just makes it more exciting'
She then replied "I don't like excitment"
I said "then hanging out with me might be risky :-)
She then said" so actually, I want to say that we won't be hanging out."

Wtf? Weird situation its just like she is lowering my value and playing me back

Any advice guys?
Sup My dude.
Okay, heres what I think...
Whenever you text a girl you're interested in, you should only have 2 objectives :
1) Building comfort and Rapport.
2) Setting a meet-up.

These two objectives shouldn't overlap, you're either trying to build rapport or you're going for the meet-up.
What that being said lets look at what you did wrong, or should've done different.
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Today I started to show the fun side of me, she asked how old I was and said that she met lots of guys younger than me which are more mature
Right here It was already game over for you my friend.
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last night I asked " so, what do you think of me? What do you like? "
Probably already here.

Why? because you tried to sell yourself to her over the fone, which in my book is a huge no no. She already agreed to the meet-up, hell she even suggested it, all you should have done is set a time and date, and left it at that. no "DHV'ing" and all that other PUA bullcrap. less is more.
A Furniture shop owner once asked one of his workers "Hey Roger, do you know what the Telephone is for?"
Roger "Yes,To sell furniture to the clients"
The owner replied “No. A really good, seasoned salesguy, like Ben over here, can sell a customer any type of furniture over the phone, but even he knows not to push too hard to try to sell over the phone unless he can tell that’s what the customer wants. All I want you to do with the telephone is to use it to get the customer in the store. Selling over the phone is an uphill battle; but, get them in the store, and by that point they’ve come all the way here, they’ve made the decision this is where they want to buy their furniture, and they’re committed, and more likely than not they’ll buy the couch or whatever. You stand a much better chance of selling the customer a couch when they’re here in front of you than when you have them on the phone. Get them in the store."

Makes sense?
Hope it does and that you'll learn from this.
Author:  pumpington [ Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pro phone game help
Quote:
I've been texting with this girl for a few days
And last night I asked " so, what do you think of me? What do you like? "
She said I was a really nice guy, and she would like to take me out for a drink.
So we were looking forward to our date this coming Saturday

Today I started to show the fun side of me, she asked how old I was and said that she met lots of guys younger than me which are more mature
I replied saying "well that just makes it more exciting'
She then replied "I don't like excitment"
I said "then hanging out with me might be risky :-)
She then said" so actually, I want to say that we won't be hanging out."

Wtf? Weird situation its just like she is lowering my value and playing me back

Any advice guys?
figure out what it means to be pro-active and lead, unless this girl is over the age of 26 and finds you extremely hot, you are headed for the friend zone

she is leading, you are reacting, she is setting the frame, you are conforming, this is some serious nice guy ''I care what you think'' game

she's practically escalating for you, then she screens you out lol

this ^ is the script you should be running on her, you should be escalating, and you should be screening, you should be leading, and she should be reacting, not the other way around, the other way around = YOU'RE A REALLY NICE GUY BUT LJBF

girl's aren't going to take responsibility for that shit unless they think you are fucking top tier attractive, like they can get huge brownie points from the friends for fucking you, cause if you can't lead, it's just tricky to summon up the moisture in their pants, they need a guy going first and making them horny, not some guy hoping it's ok and hoping they'll just hop on the dick dry cause he was friendly

and a lite little teehee followed by a, ''well im sort of a crazy guy LOL'', is not going to be turning a girl on any time soon unless she thinks you look like fabio or some shit, she can see by the way you are afraid of vaginas that this is not the case

when she said alot of guys are more mature, that most likely alludes to you being a less secure in your sexuality
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last night I asked " so, what do you think of me? What do you like? "
and this sort of frames it up nice, who gives a shit about what she thinks of you, if she doesn't like you she won't bang you, and if that's the case she wont hang out with you or let you escalate so just try to do those things instead of being worried about if she will allow access to her vagina via asking her outright, chances are she wants that to happen with a good 40% of the guys she meets, but she can't say so, that would make her feel slutty (but you should still trust that it is so, if she's meeting you and letting you get close and touchy, she probably wants to see your stamp collection at home)

stop trying to demonstrate high value, start trying to smash ass, nothing is more high value then a guy who is fun to hang out with, has a passion in life, isn't clingy, and lays a good pipe

be that guy instead of the guy who cares what people think so much that he isn't fun to hang out with, has no passions, is clingy, and is afraid to aknowledge that he even has a pipe and acts like he doesn't know what it's for

you're looking way too much for her thumbs up on the escalation, this just makes her feel slutty, remove the responsibility from her end, give her a good banging, instead of trying to get one from her
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