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Author:  ThisGuyYouKnow [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:18 am ]
Post subject:  dreaded "i have a boyfriend" AFTER date and makeout
New to the forums, blah blah.

Met a sister of a decent friend of mine last Thursday. Shot the shit with her brother and her for hours, gradually made flirty comments etc. Next day I run into her at her work, bullshit again, neg and push-pull, then get her number. Texted her when she got off and said "let's go hang." We went to the park, got to know each other, kino escalated, and I made a move and kissed her later in the evening. We made out for a few minutes then I pulled back. Later on she went in for more and we made out 2 more times for a few minutes. She goes home a while after and texts me. We bullshit for the next few days and I ask her out again, which she denies. Text some more over the weeknend, then tonight she texts and says "I have something to tell you; don't hate me." Of course I knew it would be the dreaded boyfriend card. She says it, and I immediately ask if she's happy (automatic yes). I then script-flip and say LJBF. She says "that's a good idea :)" and I say "but you at least owe me another hang out considering." I tell her i'll be at X place at a car meet Thursday night and she says great, I'll be there.

What is my next move?? Why would she make out and then drop the boyfriend card? He's on her Facebook so it's not bullshit. Trying to get prepared for Thursday and need a gameplan. Any help would be appreciated.
Author:  Chris101 [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:36 am ]
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Sounds like she's "yellow light" to me. Unless you wanted to genuinely just be friends, and you're still genuinely attracted, I would burn this to the ground. Because if you guys are hanging out, getting physical and making out, maybe she's not entirely happy in her relationship?
Author:  Hammerofdawn [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: dreaded "i have a boyfriend" AFTER date and makeout
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New to the forums, blah blah.

Met a sister of a decent friend of mine last Thursday. Shot the shit with her brother and her for hours, gradually made flirty comments etc. Next day I run into her at her work, bullshit again, neg and push-pull, then get her number. Texted her when she got off and said "let's go hang." We went to the park, got to know each other, kino escalated, and I made a move and kissed her later in the evening. We made out for a few minutes then I pulled back. Later on she went in for more and we made out 2 more times for a few minutes. She goes home a while after and texts me. We bullshit for the next few days and I ask her out again, which she denies. Text some more over the weeknend, then tonight she texts and says "I have something to tell you; don't hate me." Of course I knew it would be the dreaded boyfriend card. She says it, and I immediately ask if she's happy (automatic yes). I then script-flip and say LJBF. She says "that's a good idea :)" and I say "but you at least owe me another hang out considering." I tell her i'll be at X place at a car meet Thursday night and she says great, I'll be there.

What is my next move?? Why would she make out and then drop the boyfriend card? He's on her Facebook so it's not bullshit. Trying to get prepared for Thursday and need a gameplan. Any help would be appreciated.
If she's in a relationship, it’s unlikely you'll get a proper look in, unless you use a BF destroyer on her, a good one I’ve seen which is under-the-radar is the 'Strawman technique'. Here’s a thread on it straw-man-technique-vt43374.html

It’s all covered there, but I must stress do not belittle or aim insults at her current bf as she will most likely feel the need to defend him, taking that approach will also be insulting her in the progress.
What you need to do instead is build him up to an expectation that you know he won't be able to live up to, let her figure out for herself all his short-comings and let her do all the damage herself.

I must admit I'm not a huge fan of it and I'd exercise extreme caution if you decide to use it, but if you have an insight that she is genuinely unhappy in her current relationship and you want her bad enough, then this may be a way to progress.

One thing I will say, Karma is a normally a bitch for wanting to bite you on the ass, so be prepared.
Author:  ThisGuyYouKnow [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:04 am ]
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Thanks for the replies!

I am genuinely interested. Have had a few first dates lately with HB 8-9's, but she really caught my attention. I guess I will try a BFD, as she's only been "together" with him for like 3 weeks or so (obviously not serious about him.) Which one is the best? I've used straw man before but I want something more sudden. Ideas??
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