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| Author: | ganon [ Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:45 am ] |
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So, money is not actually an issue for me (date expenses are cheap compared to my total budget) - but nonetheless, I have it in my head that I should avoid trying to spend a lot of money on a girl, as it's a DLV. Plus it's likely what every guy does (I live in a very white-collar, beta area where the average guy is well off but has little game.) The age old "who pays" question. How do you guys handle this? Do you insist on splitting dating expenses with girls (and if so, how do you frame / set it up)? Do you just pay? For me, the money itself is a non-issue, but I have the suspicion that readily paying is a DLV (especially in my case, as most girls I know out with know what my career is and know I *have* the money, so whipping out the money doesn't show anything). With the girls I'm currently seeing I've mostly gotten into 'we alternate or split' arrangements - but I don't have well thought out strategies for setting up this frame or dealing with resistance. I had one 1st date that ended badly when the girl went on a tirade about how the guy should always pay. I'd love a good line / routine / strategy for deflecting this shyte test. Usually girls go for and get out their wallet, thankfully. I'll make a comment like "I'll get this and you can get the next round or something" or let her pay and say, "thanks, and maybe I'll get it next time." I try to convey a tone of "I don't really care that much, but this is what I'm accustomed to" (which is true). This seems to be going well (one girl, whose OKC profile conveyed a clear expectation of being paid for and taken care of, has on our 4 dates so far being readily paying half). But granted, I can't actually tell whether it's building more attractive than it would if I paid, and it's just capitalizing on girls' politeness (I have no strategies for getting a girl to go for her wallet if she doesn't already, or deal with resistance). Also - what about gifts? I try to avoid expensive gifts, but I've been thinking books may actually be DHV gifts (depending on the book of course). They're -inexpensive -non-mushy -highly personal (it's always something relevant to conversations or shared interests) -can convey dominance or my frame (like 'welcome to my world', or like I expect her to adopt my thoughts/interests/beliefs) -can be socially acceptable regifts ("this was on my shelf, and I think you'll like it") |
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| Author: | _Action_ [ Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:48 am ] |
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I have a joke I do that lightens splitting the bill. I say: "I'll pay for yours. You pay for mine." |
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| Author: | smokeit [ Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:47 pm ] |
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Quote: I have a joke I do that lightens splitting the bill. I say: "I'll pay for yours. You pay for mine."
Niceeeee |
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