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Well, it's very difficult to point out someones mistakes unless you see the interaction.
I personally like the fact that you seem to start kino early on, setting the frame for your whole meeting. But then again, there is allways too much, too much kino could creep them out, too much CnF could simply make you look self-centered if done wrong or too much.
In my experience, talking to much/fast makes you seem needy. Learn how too get them to open up and talk about things that they find interesting, people wanna be listened to rather than listen, generally. I mean, talking alot makes it look like you fear that once you stop, it would cause an akward silence.
Hope that some of this could help you out, might have swung and missed here but, I think I can picture your problem.
P.S. You don't think you could give us an example of the conversation?
I don't think an interaction would help in this case. I personally like the fact that you seem to start kino early on, setting the frame for your whole meeting. But then again, there is allways too much, too much kino could creep them out, too much CnF could simply make you look self-centered if done wrong or too much.
In my experience, talking to much/fast makes you seem needy. Learn how too get them to open up and talk about things that they find interesting, people wanna be listened to rather than listen, generally. I mean, talking alot makes it look like you fear that once you stop, it would cause an akward silence.
Hope that some of this could help you out, might have swung and missed here but, I think I can picture your problem.
P.S. You don't think you could give us an example of the conversation?
Anyways, your input was very helpeful, I put it into a pratice!!
Yesterday I went sarging and approached HB7, CnF approach, funny, showing strong value, then dancing nad after that we sat down...
We talked for about 2 hours maybe (1 hour in the club and 1 hour in my car). I decided I would change the ratio of CnF/teasing/sexual tension vs comfort. I also let her talk much more, asking important questions. In the 2 hours convo there were about 2-3 CnF and teasing sentences (in one case I teased her about anal sex and she gave me a play punch
). Then one really romantic kiss after 2 unsuccessfull attempts. Then we kissed and touched a lot and she seems pretty hooked - texting me today and overall much much warmer then the other 2 girls.You were right that I was talking about bullshits WAY TOO MUCH (and too fast) and CnFing like a crazy man.
I found out its important to get her open up and be vulnerable.
OTH wrt to kino (including kissing) I think, and it seem counter intuitive, I increased the amount. I don't think it will creep her out if its slowely escalated and when she refuses to comply at some point, I just back up one step. Stepping back to comfort zone = not creeping out.
I think my problems comes from the fact that I am a PUA newbie and I don't know have the sense how to calibrate ratio of the techniques yet. Just have to experiment.
