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Author:  Athenian [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:01 am ]
Post subject:  Have made amazing progress but still confused on one thing

Evening all. Ok so I have made massive self improvement but this is still one thing I dont understand.

To cut a long story short an asian 7.5/10 basically made her intentions obvious by asking me if I was going to a club on Thursday that everyone was going to. I did in the end go and she gave me her number and told me to text her when I arrived. I did. We met up in the club. Then it went like this:

- Talked for a bit by the bar
- Took her to the dancefloor (Isolation)
- Natural game including one or two minor negs
- Two magic tricks, by this time she was eating out of my hands
- Took her outside to smoking area (move around the place, avoid staying in the same place)
- Went back inside, took her by the hand, she squeezed back
- She got really close and was sidled up right against me holding my hand
- I used Gamblers technique when talking to her (getting in close, see his London seminar)
- Our faces were centimetres away but I didnt go in for the kiss, had this been a couple of months ago I would have made the schoolboy error of doing so
- Something happened with my friends so I had to leave her
- Kissed her on the cheek near her lips when we parted

There have been a few cheeky texts but I have got the impression that she is a bit deflated by something. It is not possible for a girl to showing about 25 IOI's in one night to become so cold within 24 hours. Any thoughts on what I could have done better would be great. Plus any explanations on her feelings and actions would also be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Author:  snillaheart [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:49 am ]
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I used Gamblers technique when talking to her (getting in close, see his London seminar)
- Our faces were centimetres away but I didnt go in for the kiss, had this been a couple of months ago I would have made the schoolboy error of doing so
have you realized that everything was perfect until you used gamblers material?

in my experience when a girl lets you escalate or even helps you escalate it usually means you need to begin escalating even faster, shits gotta happen quick. shes was into it and you were not, she threw herself at you but then you were like lets be friends...kiss on the cheek.
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It is not possible for a girl to showing about 25 IOI's in one night to become so cold within 24 hours.
shit man its right in front of your eyes, not only its possible, even worse, its actually happening

it sucks man, hopefully lesson learned

Author:  Athenian [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:36 am ]
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I mean it was in my mind to escalate. Of course it was, all the signs were there. But I thought that its better not to start kissing in the club as she will know that you are only interested in one thing, whereas if you get close but do not seal the deal she will know that you like her but want to get to know her more (That theory about having sex whenever you want it instead of for just one night).

Obviously I still need to improve in this part. What can I do now to get it back on track?? I thought I was immaculate, seems not so.


Extra details: We did go to the last two years of high school together and we live in the same town pretty much. By coincidence I find out she goes to same University as me.

Author:  pumpington [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:53 pm ]
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I mean it was in my mind to escalate. Of course it was, all the signs were there. But I thought that its better not to start kissing in the club as she will know that you are only interested in one thing, whereas if you get close but do not seal the deal she will know that you like her but want to get to know her more (That theory about having sex whenever you want it instead of for just one night).

Obviously I still need to improve in this part. What can I do now to get it back on track?? I thought I was immaculate, seems not so.


Extra details: We did go to the last two years of high school together and we live in the same town pretty much. By coincidence I find out she goes to same University as me.
what is wrong with ''only being interested in one thing?'', especially when it is obvious that she is also interested in that one thing, girls get ''turned off'' fixing situations really doesn't usually end well, if you make an advance and it is rejected, that is forgiven easy, but often when a girl makes advances (or at least the little cues that she dreams up in her head as advances) and they are rejected (not escalated upon) often this can feel like a rejection, and it is easy for a sensative person to get ''turned off'' when they feel rejected, on top of that it is always easier to find a new girl then to fix something, just leaving a girl alone and not caring about what happens sometimes just gets her to chase, and the problem fixes it's self, but actively trying to fix a problem usually results in you telegraphing some neediness, with the good ol' lets just be friends, or the girl goes into flake mode

Author:  Athenian [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:07 pm ]
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I see. As I said she lives in the same area as me. Should I leave it a few days and see if she wants to do something?

Author:  RoyalATL [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:05 pm ]
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I mean it was in my mind to escalate. Of course it was, all the signs were there. But I thought that its better not to start kissing in the club as she will know that you are only interested in one thing, whereas if you get close but do not seal the deal she will know that you like her but want to get to know her more (That theory about having sex whenever you want it instead of for just one night).

Obviously I still need to improve in this part. What can I do now to get it back on track?? I thought I was immaculate, seems not so.


Extra details: We did go to the last two years of high school together and we live in the same town pretty much. By coincidence I find out she goes to same University as me.
She doesn't know you're interested in ONLY one thing. You're interested in a thing. She is too. A benchmark of good pick-up technique is building comfort. It happens faster for us than in normal situations. If you're doing it right, you can escalate faster than a normal dude and not give the impression that you're ONLY trying sleep with a girl. Happy trails.

Author:  Athenian [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:43 pm ]
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Thanks. Any tips on how to get it back on track to the flirtatious/steamy situation it was in the club or is something I should just soak up and walk away from?

Author:  RoyalATL [ Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:26 am ]
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Thanks. Any tips on how to get it back on track to the flirtatious/steamy situation it was in the club or is something I should just soak up and walk away from?
I'm willing to bet she likes guys to make the first move, so take it along the alpha male track. Call, don't text. After you say hi, immediately say something like "We need to hang out. When are you free?" Don't be wishy-washy - no "i was thinking it'd be cool if..." or "i'd really like..." Be a CEO running the official board room of FUCK.

When you meet, give her a big hug, but that is the end of you expressing interest in her. Be casual for the night. Whenever she shows the first IOI, go in for a kiss.

Author:  Athenian [ Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:55 am ]
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Ok, Ill give it a go. Thanks for all the help guys. Much appreciated!

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