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Author:  stylemania [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:06 am ]
Post subject:  The Player is Being Played
I went on quite a unique first date on Saturday. We met up for a cup of coffee and then she invited me to come and hang with a bunch of her friends at a bar. And so I did. I befriended all of the guy friends. This is sooo important. At the end of the evening, she invited me over to an after party but I had to get going home. So she kissed me (yes, she kissed me) and invited me over for breakfast the next morning (unfortunately I could not go to that either).

We text the next day for a bit and then nothing during on Monday. On tuesday I text her and ask her out on a date.

Me: I would like to take you out on Friday.
Her: Oh really?! What is your plan?
Me: We should go and see the movie Crazy Stupid Love.
Me: Oh, no it is not playing anymore. How about we meet up for coffee and we can be spontaneous like last time. Does that sound like a plan?
Her: Maybe. I don know yet. :)
Me: Okay, well I would like to see you, but if you can't make it, no worries.
Her: IDK, my friend just got kicked out of his house, and he is going to stay here over the weekend. He speaks to himself. Creepy no? : - D
Me: That's cool; Friends first, that's really important.


After this there was just some random chit chat. Haven't heard from her today. Is she really blowing me off? She kisses me and now she's blowing me off? WOW! I was thinking she may be getting even at me for turning down breakfast (I would have loved to have gone but I had a prior meeting set up).


I am not quite ready to give up yet. She is cute and fun, and I like her friends (male and female). How should I go about this, without implementing an all or nothing attitude. She responds best when it is her idea I suppose, and her schedule is sporadic.




Background: She canceled our date twice before we met the first time. So that she is flaky is not something that happened just after we met.


She kissed me, invites me over for breakfast, and now plays hard to get. i feel that I have a chance with her, and need some advice, everyone. Will attraction build up if I drop off the earth for a while? Or what should I do without coming across as pushy and needy?
Author:  khuram [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:03 am ]
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if you post your questions i can answer. Just post the main questions. Duno why but i am unable to pick the questions out of you post.
Author:  stylemania [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:35 pm ]
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What should I do next? Is there anything I can do that will make me more attractive in her eyes?
Author:  Mr-Rev [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:47 pm ]
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You've made friends with her friends, get involved in the group, rather than trying to set up dates with her, spend time with the other guys and girls where she will surely end up being also, then can isolate and attract at those times.

Not all attraction needs to be built up during 1 on 1 meetings. Go have some fun, she'll have fun with you, then make her want you.
Author:  stylemania [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:53 pm ]
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I know one of her friends is on Facebook. Would it be creepy if I add him? I got another friend's business card, but gosh that would feel awkward calling him at work (I assume it is his work #).

What do you think?
Author:  stylemania [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:55 pm ]
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Is she rejecting me at this stage tho? Do you guys think that she is saying, "HEY BACK OFF"??
Author:  Mr-Rev [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:04 pm ]
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Na, just add him, "Hey man, had a good time the other night, how you doin?" and get some interaction there, expand into that social circle.

And for her you've already said she has a flaky nature, maybe she is just a very all over the place bouncy kinda girl? It's not always to avoid you, she just isn't great at keeping plans organised.

Don't push the situation to much, keep some conversation going when you can and drop in the lines like "I'm thinking about heading to such and such tomorrow night, come along" If she says can't, go anyway, but like I said if you get into the social circle, you will end up spending time with her no matter what.
Author:  stylemania [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:20 pm ]
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So going no contact on her for about a week (unless she contacts me) won't do anything for me at this point?
Author:  khuram [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:23 pm ]
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mr.rev is my hero as well :D
Author:  stylemania [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:34 pm ]
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It's just that I feel like I have asked her out now and she turned me down. If she wanted to see me, she could have proposed another date, right?

I don't wanna be too pushy (cause we all know how that goes). :P
Author:  khuram [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:58 pm ]
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i would just like to say a few lines here.
A girls turning you down is not a rejection. There are many ways around to get out of it and take control of the situation back into your hands. 80% of the guys lose the girl, not because their game is bad, not even because of the girl but because of how they interpret the situation.
Remember Game is over, when YOU think that game is over
Author:  Mr-Rev [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:19 pm ]
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You can still contact her, just don't do it because you're trying to force conversation, if you see or think of something that reminds you of her, tell her, if it's genuine it's fine.

Maybe in a week, or less if she contacts you or a random text you send goes well, try hitting her back with that breakfast offer.

"I'm free tomorrow morning, how about that breakfast you offered me? Fancy a well cooked breakfast. You can cook right..?"
Author:  stylemania [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:45 pm ]
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That is really some great advice. Thanks everybody:)

I will cool off for a few more days and then send her a text.


One last question: When we were out on our first date I met a whole bunch of her friends. One of her acquaintances was actually a really cool guy and I was thinking of asking him if he's up for a beer. Is that weird that I am asking one of her friends (acquaintances) out for a beer, especially now that she "turned down" my offer to go out on a second date?
Author:  Indie00 [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:23 pm ]
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If you think you have a chance with her, then you don't.
You need to have a hook in her mouth early on.
Author:  stylemania [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:48 pm ]
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I am not sure if I have a chance with her (a kiss doesn't seem to mean a lot with her, as I think she doesn't know what she wants).

Will asking her guy acquaintance out for a beer hinder my chances of getting together with her? Is that creepy or weird? lol
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