Thanks for the reply man, really appreciate it!
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| Author: | Prospero [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:18 am ] |
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... during two days of night game, with no particular results whatsoever. I've gone direct from the beginning, opening with something along the lines of "Come here, I need to talk to you", or "I think you're cute". I think I've avoided most of the pitfalls of direct opening, my body language was decent, and I didn't run out of things to say. I did some of the routine stuff, like inverting questions to statements (instead of asking how old are you, I told them "you look 20") blah blah, but mostly it was the natural result of my inner game. I've managed the seemingly common "I have a boyfriend" - shit tests and I've saved a girl from a half-naked gorilla, so shit was happening. Still, I'm slightly disappointed. 1. It's very hard to track down what exactly I've done wrong. I've started kinoing in the first minute (handshake -> touching her to observe necklace, jewelry, hair etc.). My voice wasn't shaking. Maybe I wasn't assertive enough? Maybe I was throwing my arms around? Possibly, but who knows for sure? 2. I was really hoping for at least a numclose, but I got nothing. They were all smiling and slipping away. The only girl I've "numclosed" wasn't entirely cold approach, and it was her picking me up, so it doesn't count. 3. Because of the lack of feedback, I don't know if I'm on the right track, I'll gladly do 1000 failed approaches if I know I'm learning from them, and that they'll lead me to where I want to be. But what if it's not moving me forward? How would I know? 4. Do newbies really have to tart with indirect and routines? Is it necessary? I really dislike them, I'd like to do natural stuff from the beginning unless it's absolutely necessary to start out with MM stuff. I didn't lose my motivation of course, it only got stronger. But I'm still a bit insecure about pickup. Thanks for your answers guys. |
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| Author: | Prospero [ Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:22 pm ] |
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You know guys, I need some help here to move forward. We have no good lairs around here, nobody interested in pickup, so I need at least a bare minimum of feedback from you. If you can't help which I can understand, I'll gladly provide additional details. But let's be honest here, cold approach is pretty fucking hard, and I'll fall back to being AFC without your help. Thanks again. |
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| Author: | Zachpwnsu [ Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:32 pm ] |
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Well you didnt provide any details about how you approached or what was said during the conversations so it is hard to critique based on you critiquing yourself. More details! =) |
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| Author: | Prospero [ Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:46 pm ] |
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Well, my first approach might've been the most promising. Interestingly enough, it was also the best looking chick. Here's a typical approach: I notice the girl standing at a club, outside the dance floor (not very loud, open scene). I approach, smile, act slightly cocky. I see the girl standing next to the door, and I say something along the lines of: "Dunno who you're waiting for, but we need to talk." She smiles back, I introduce myself (handshake), and I either notice something interesting on her, in which case I start some slight kino (like touching her neck while observing her necklace), or I simply start a guessing game. I give myself 3 chances to guess her age, I think this is more interesting than simply asking stupid questions. At this point, I just say what comes to my mind: how I look younger than I'm actually am or anything related to this topic, blah blah blah. They just look at me, and listen and wait and smile, and they give short answers. Conversations usually aren't longer than a minute or maybe two, they just say "we have to go, nice meeting you" and she walks off with her girlfriend. You see, for the first 8-10 approaches of my life, I think I did fairly well, and I'm proud of myself. But I'd be even more proud if I knew in what way did I fuck up, because clearly something is wrong or missing, which makes me sad. Maybe I smile too much, or move around too much. I have an accent, maybe it confuses them? I could start escalating earlier and harder, but I figure you need to leave at least a minute or two to do some comfort? Do I need to do indirect stuff, or can I go straight at direct, even if I'm a newbie? Plus, I've noticed that hotter girls are actually nicer. Is this a stupid thing to say? Dunno, did you notice anything similar? |
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| Author: | Zachpwnsu [ Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:38 pm ] |
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lol the problem I see with most guys on here is that they are to into pickup. Just remember girls in clubs get approached by so many guys, same thing, same thing, same thing. The one and only thing you really need to remember is to make the interaction FUN and MEMORABLE. Im still a noob too, but im a high ass energy mother fucker and when I approach a girl, I'm loud and obnoxious and the girl is like "WTF?!" at first but then realizes im the type of guy she can have fun with. You did very good for your first approaches and everything. You just have to not give up and keep doing it. KEEP DOING IT. Everything you do in life you need to keep doing in order to get good at it. Whether its sports, video games, writing, Picking up girls, public speaking, ANYTHING. JUST DO IT. You are well on your way to being very very good. Oh and one line I like to use on girls who are standing there obviously bored or looking confused with no smile on their face. I walk up and yell "Awww why do you look so sad?? Put a little smile on that face!" They smile and laugh very loud cuz they're like "Oh shit I probably do look sad or confused. Then im just like "Aww there you go, it looks good on you!" Change it up of course due to the situation, works like a charm. Hope it helps man! KEEP IT UP! |
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| Author: | Prospero [ Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:42 pm ] |
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Thanks for the reply man, really appreciate it!
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