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Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:42 am ]
Post subject:  If you don't drink . . .
If you don't drink, and you get a girl to buy you a drink, hand the drink to another girl that you're talking to.

That will neg the girl that bought the drink as well as DHVing yourself to the girl you hand it to. The target, the girl buying the drink will likely be shocked.
Author:  imnotghetto [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:45 am ]
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If you don't drink, and you get a girl to buy you a drink, hand the drink to another girl that you're talking to.

That will neg the girl that bought the drink as well as DHVing yourself to the girl you hand it to. The target, the girl buying the drink will likely be shocked.
Should you continue to talk to the girl who bought you the drink? Or talk to the girl who you are giving the drink to.
Author:  Ka [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:48 am ]
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Excellent advice i will try it...i used to drink a ton thinking itd be DHV (when i was an AFC) and also thinking id be more intresting...

Since i have realised i was drinking to make other people intresting, and that without it i am better able to control my social surroundings...my frineds dont get it and often get frustrated when i dont drink.

However if i do 5 lies or something and wager a drink, this would be an awsome move...however i think itd only work with a girl you know...maybe someone you opened previously or a friend...girls might think your upto no good if they are a complete stranger.

thanks ill give it a try.

**would this DHV you if a dude gets you a drink (say a buddy of yours) and you give it to a girl...say your wing grabs drinks, you open, he shows up hands you the drink and you go 'nah' and give it to the chick?**
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:05 am ]
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imnotghetto . . . I'm assuming it's the target that you get to buy you the drink, so yeah, keep treating her as you normally would. If you're in the process of paying more attention to her friends, getting them to like you, then you would continue that, but DO reward her for getting you the drink. Then, you can start to isolate her as you would normally. If you are already to that point, then continue with it. Basically, you threw a hoop out there and she jumped through it. So, you reward her for that.

Ka . . . if your wing grabs drinks and hands one to you, I WOULDN'T say "nah" and give the girl the drink. I'd say "thanks" and give the girl the drink. But I wouldn't give the TARGET the drink.
Author:  Trivial [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:43 am ]
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Or you can look like a real man and have her buy you milk (dhv).
Author:  lao-p [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:13 pm ]
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hmm, make sure the 2nd girl sees the first buying you a drink. . . otherwise ur just an afc with the initiative to buy a drink before asking
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:54 pm ]
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hmm, make sure the 2nd girl sees the first buying you a drink. . . otherwise ur just an afc with the initiative to buy a drink before asking
So true. Good point that I should have made, lol. Thanks.
Author:  Rye Lee [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:33 am ]
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imnotghetto . . . I'm assuming it's the target that you get to buy you the drink, so yeah, keep treating her as you normally would. If you're in the process of paying more attention to her friends, getting them to like you, then you would continue that, but DO reward her for getting you the drink. Then, you can start to isolate her as you would normally. If you are already to that point, then continue with it. Basically, you threw a hoop out there and she jumped through it. So, you reward her for that.
What you can do here, is when she gives you the drink, you can position yourself so that she comes in beside you and you can put your arm around her waist. Then, now that you've got her like this, you give the drink to this other person, but keep your grip on her firm, so you're negging her, by giving the drink away, but at the same time this kino is rewarding her and causing attraction, because you are being so dominant.
Author:  Tripdogg5 [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:35 am ]
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I dunno guys, I see a lot of holes in this strategy. If you hand the drink which your target bought you to a girl she doesn't know, I would picture her most likely getting pissed, not playfully surprised. Then there's the likely possibility that the girl you hand your drink to doesn't want it, then you look stupid in front of both girls. Too much risk, not enough reward. Plus you don't even get to enjoy your drink!

In my opinion, if you get an HB to buy you a drink, you've already won her attraction. After that I would concentrate on getting to know her and building comfort. With this stunt, you end up looking like an AFC to one girl and simultaneously pissing off the one that was actually interested. Way too risky. But hey, lemme know if something like this actually works out for u bro.
Author:  Close [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:59 am ]
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I dunno guys, I see a lot of holes in this strategy. If you hand the drink which your target bought you to a girl she doesn't know, I would picture her most likely getting pissed, not playfully surprised. Then there's the likely possibility that the girl you hand your drink to doesn't want it, then you look stupid in front of both girls. Too much risk, not enough reward. Plus you don't even get to enjoy your drink!

In my opinion, if you get an HB to buy you a drink, you've already won her attraction. After that I would concentrate on getting to know her and building comfort. With this stunt, you end up looking like an AFC to one girl and simultaneously pissing off the one that was actually interested. Way too risky. But hey, lemme know if something like this actually works out for u bro.
Dude, I agree entirely, and you said it better than I ever could.

But different people different styles.
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:12 pm ]
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I dunno guys, I see a lot of holes in this strategy. If you hand the drink which your target bought you to a girl she doesn't know, I would picture her most likely getting pissed, not playfully surprised. Then there's the likely possibility that the girl you hand your drink to doesn't want it, then you look stupid in front of both girls. Too much risk, not enough reward. Plus you don't even get to enjoy your drink!

In my opinion, if you get an HB to buy you a drink, you've already won her attraction. After that I would concentrate on getting to know her and building comfort. With this stunt, you end up looking like an AFC to one girl and simultaneously pissing off the one that was actually interested. Way too risky. But hey, lemme know if something like this actually works out for u bro.
Actually, look at it this way, man. If you're "in" with her and she buys you a drink, she's jumping through a hoop for you, for which you reward her (and I think Rye's suggestion is very good for rewarding her also). If she already sees you as C & F, then this would fit right in with C & F, now wouldn't it.

If you have the right attitude with the set, this shouldn't hurt you at all.
Author:  Rye Lee [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:02 pm ]
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I dunno guys, I see a lot of holes in this strategy. If you hand the drink which your target bought you to a girl she doesn't know, I would picture her most likely getting pissed, not playfully surprised. Then there's the likely possibility that the girl you hand your drink to doesn't want it, then you look stupid in front of both girls. Too much risk, not enough reward. Plus you don't even get to enjoy your drink!

In my opinion, if you get an HB to buy you a drink, you've already won her attraction. After that I would concentrate on getting to know her and building comfort. With this stunt, you end up looking like an AFC to one girl and simultaneously pissing off the one that was actually interested. Way too risky. But hey, lemme know if something like this actually works out for u bro.
If you aren't comfortable just handing off a drink as if its nothing big (the key to doing this, if you put value on it, then you do look AFC here) then you can take a sip and say something like, "Oh, I thought you were gonna buy the expensive stuff.... Here, you'll probably like this...." Then you hand it off and you ended up negging both, while DHVing your expensive taste and as long as you do it with a big grin on your face and while giving the girl that brought you the drink kino, then she'll forgive you and try to impress you better next time.

Another way of doing that would be while she still has both hands full, stopping her and then running your hand down her face in the 'C' shape and then kissing her passionately (this is similar to pinning her hands above her head or something where she is restrained, because she has nothing she can do with her hands and feels powerless, which is a big turn on for girls when they are really attracted and comfortable with you). Then you say, "Mmmm...I think I'm intoxicated enough from that, Love" and then give it to another girl you are hanging out with (her friends are good, because then she doesn't feel like she just got ripped off). You rewarded her for getting you a drink, but you still get a bit of a neg in there for passing the drink off, so now she wants to impress you more and you've escalated the playing field.
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