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| Author: | alphaecho [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Two keys for successfully opening |
The real low down on openers. What’s up fellas. Here’s my take on openers. First off, my credentials. I've spent the last 6 years sarging in clubs. I've spent the last 4 years learning stuff from all the PUA masters, like Mystery, Strauss, DeAngelo, Cajun, and Tyler Durden. What I post is sum of all my experiences from trial and error and stuff I've learned from the masters which has helped me Here’s what I see from a lot of guys. Guys agonize, searching the internet, racking their brains trying to find the “perfect” opener. Days pass. They see lots of hot girls, but they rationalize not approaching because ‘they haven’t found the right opener yet.’ Here’s the truth I’ve learned about openers. You’re opener means SHIT. There’s no such thing as a perfect opener. I’ll say it again. There’s no such thing as a perfect opener. There’s opening, and there’s not opening. That’s it! Here is the trick: 1. Don’t worry about your opener. Focus on opening, not the “quality” of your opener. The truth a girl isn’t going to reject you, or get with you based on the “strength” of your opener. You can open with ANYTHING. Have you ever seen that show the Keys to the VIP? Sometimes the players have to open with an insult. And what happens? The guys usually turn it around and get the digits. Think about that. If you can open with an INSULT and still get numbers, then you don’t need a perfect opener. Just open. Even if you think the opener is subpar, use it anyway. It’ll probably work. The only exception is an opener that might come across as threatening. Don’t use anything that the girl can take as threatening her safety. 2. Here’s something I learned that has helped me open with much greater consistency. The delivery of the opener, is more important than the opener itself. I’ll repeat this because this is lost on most guys. The delivery of the opener, is more important than the opener itself. Your body language says loads about you. LOADS!!!! Think about this. Do you have a friend that has bad body language, especially around girls? What’s a girls impression likely to be of this friend, based only on his body language? She’d probably say, low self esteem. Not very confident. She’d know all this just by looking at him. Even if his opener is tight, his body language is speaking louder than his words. Now take a guy like Al Pacino in the Godfather. Or George Clooney from Oceans 11. What does their body language tell you about them? Confident. Alpha. Masters of their universe. Here’s the funny thing. Al Pacino, and your loser friend get their body language from the same place. Their body language is an expression of how they view themselves. If your loser friend thought he was a pimp, then his body language would reflect this, and he’d appear more confident. You know need know this too. Right now, focus on all the reasons why you’re the man. Fuck everyone else. Fuck what anyone else thinks about you. This is your reality. Once you start believing you’re the man, your body language will automatically shift. Think about this: If you don't think you're the man, then you'll never be the man to anyone else? So, the next time you go out, do the following: - Focus on opening. Not the quality of your opener. That way you’ll get away from being another loser in the club rationalizing in his head why he can’t open yet. - Work on your body language. Stand up straight. Make eye contact. Ask yourself, “What is my current body language telling others about me right now.” If it’s negative, immediately change your body language in till this become natural. Ask yourself, “how does a confident man speak?” If you’re not talking like it, then immediately start. Pretty soon it will become natural. Good luck guys. |
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| Author: | Maikuljay [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:27 am ] |
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I agree 100%.. chicks aren't really listening to much of what you say.. more how you make them feel and that is strongly conveyed by your body language core confidence and ability to act on what you want. The more you open the smoother it will be.. like any skill it has a phase of development. I'm a huge fan of Tim's approach from RSD.. Simply. "Hi, I'm Tim" about as direct as it get's.. strong, focussed and no complicated things to master.. just being yourself, which is awesome. |
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| Author: | timer [ Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | "If you spend too much time thinking about a thing, you'll n |
Great post! I have been forcing myself, over the last week or two, to practice the 3 second rule on any good looking women I haven’t meet, within 10 feet of me during the day. Which to me equals about 10-15 "opens" before noon, a convenience of my job. The first few days where rough, trying to think of a perfect day game opener. After a few days though, I just stopped trying for a great opener and found a well timed "Hey! How are you?" followed by asking her opinion on anything situational starts a good conversation. Today I found the perfect quote to re-enforce the fact that, you just gotta do it and, approaching is more important than how great your approach is. Bruce Lee- "If you spend too much time thinking about a thing, you'll never get it done." And as far as "body language" goes, I have been really studying this guy I work with and have found that I can say just about anything to a girl, stuff that is way to sexual for work, and get a positive response right away. He, on the other hand can’t go half that far. The only difference in what we say is how we say it. Just today a girl at work called me a "flirt" and him "creepy"....like I said, we say the same thing, only thing different is how we carry ourselves..... |
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