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Author:  EPIC227 [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:54 am ]
Post subject:  *******I DONT UNDERSTAND*******
whenever your talking to girls, do u guys see a process or structure?

cuz like i want to notice this process or structure whenever i talk to girls but i always seem to forget it and just go with no structure.

how can i train myself to turn talking to girls into a process where i move from one stage to another and provoke it?

any ideas?
Author:  arkmandluxe [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:03 am ]
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Breathe, be calm, and confident. Think about what you need to say and dont forget posture. Shoulders back and dont stare in their eyes. Thats what might be making you forget your talking to girls cause when you dont look away you dont think about what to say and how to hold your position. Look at them for 1-2 seconds than 2 seconds look away and think why your there and what to say.
Author:  Heedless_0ne [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:51 am ]
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Yea,

I have the exact same problem. I know all this routine, theory stuff up the ass, but when i speak to girls i blanc, and come out of it thinking "why the hell did i do abc when i clearly knew she was trying to do xyz!" and then i beat myself for being a retard lol.
Author:  OneTime [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:58 am ]
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I've been using EC for long periods of time when the convo is going great and she's looking right back in to mine. When the convo starts getting boring is where I tend to look away, but when we're both in the moment I'm locked on for as long as I can. Even if there's a slight pause in between conversations just looking at each other causes that tension and one of you starts smiling.
Author:  Rye Lee [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:44 am ]
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Its practice. Hopefully you drive, or are learning to drive, because its the same thing as when you are learning to drive. You learn all the theory behind it, you understand that the wheel steers and the pedals go faster and slower and the blinkers turn on the lights, but when you get into the driver's seat the first while, every time, you have to think so much. You're not holding a conversation that is constantly changing, but it is similar, because you have to react to all the changing things and remember what to do when something changes, whether it is a light, or a person stepping out, or a car turning, you're always reacting. PU is the same starting out, you are focused on so many things, and just trying to keep focused on having the conversation and not doing something wrong, that you can hardly think about what to do right. So you practice, over and over again until it is just natural, just like driving. Then you can work on doing things right, then you have that naturally.
Author:  phuckles [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:42 am ]
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i dont usually see it in terms of gear shifting like many people talk about. im' sure its there, and when i look back at some of my sarges i can think of times when i gear shifted without even knowing it. the biggest change that's pretty easy to detect is the breaking point or wall as i like to call it. that's the point where the HB goes from "i'm going to keep my guard up b/c this guys might be an uninteresting jerk" to "wow, this guys' kind of interesting, i'm going to give him the time of day". up until that point i kinda get the sense that i'm on trial or being judged, but after that point i can start to feel the rapport building easier as she starts to come around.

i think the best thing to do is to keep a journal of your sarges. after you go out, come home and write out what you did. write down what you and your HBs talked about chronologically, highlighting any key moments like "she smiled at me here" or "great kino here" and you will start to see the gear shifting and the wall.
Author:  Dodger [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:19 pm ]
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It's just nerves at this point. It's good that you're recognizing you're mistakes, now you have to work being more comfortable around hot women.
The only way to do this is practice practice practice, eventually you won't be nervous and will be able to follow the process accordingly.

Remember don't worry about the outcome, don't give a fuck whether she'll fuck you or reject you. Just play the game to the best of your ability and you'll learn. Remember it's just a GAME! and she's just a practice dummy.
Author:  Danielbenjamin [ Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:39 am ]
Post subject:  My favorite form of practice
You know, the ways I've gotten the method and system set in my brain are two things:
1. I've been explaining it to my buddies, and the more I repeat it to them, the more I ingrain it in myself
2. I practice on my friends without them knowing. When I'm sitting at lunch with some people I know and there is a girl I haven't met before, I game the shit out of her, and let me tell you, its SO much fun.

Think about it, when you learn to ride a bike you put on training wheels, right? well, you can specifically choose situations that will help you ease into the big world of PUAs. I went to a frat party where I knew half the guys in the frat and I knew half the girls. I walked in, hugged/high fived/cheek kissed every person I knew on the way in. It was like practice with training wheels, I displayed so much DHV the first minute I was in that place that basically every girl in the room met me by the end of the night. (I # closed with some girl who calls/texts me a bit too often...but I can deal :) )

yeah, practice on friends, explain to your guys friends (they can only benifit, right?) or a specific guy friend, and then put yourself in situations that make you feel confident. Inner game is huge.
Author:  xxIcexx [ Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:45 pm ]
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when im out, i think about the process and how to do it, when i go up it goes out the window and the natural me takes over, but since im a sarcastic fuck, negs usually fly out of my mouth, so theres a step, i already know how to dhv, so thats another, so just keep at it and it will come to you
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