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| Author: | MagicAnalyst [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Social Acceptance vs Social Hook |
Ok Peeps, Heres one for you. First of all, apologies for my still formulaic / analytical approach (I know some of you naturals will hate me for that approach) Basically, I went out the other night and approached six sets. And in almost every one, I gained what I would call SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE. They would talk to me, I was in the group and I could go into A2 and DHV etc. However, in almost every set, an interruption came in or some of the friends went to leave and wanted to take their friend with them (the one I was talking to). And she was willing to go, and would say thanks for saying Hi etc. In essence, I had not HOOKED her socially. I had SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE but no SOCIAL HOOK. Has anyone else experienced this and do you have any ideas of how you turn social acceptance into a social hook where she just doesnt want you to leave? Thanks in advance MA |
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| Author: | LukeTheGreek [ Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:40 pm ] |
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I'm not a master but you might have advanced too fast. Try sticking around more in A1 and see if that helps at all, or just extract your target from the group quicker so that way you don't have to worry about a distraction or anything. I think the difference between social acceptance and social hook-point is that at the social acceptance level the group is comfortable having you around and accepts your presence but at the social hook-point is where the group wants to have you around even more, you're socially accepted and thus a part of the group with the hook-point. That's really all the advice I can give you for the time being, hopefully it helps |
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| Author: | MagicAnalyst [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | thanks |
Thanks for the reply. I think you may be right about being in A1. What often happens at the moment is I run out of things to say and rush onto my A2 routines because they are the only things in my head! And in a way I think I am starting to build attraction with the A2 routines. Its just that without the hook, i dont seem to have the time to do it fully! thanks for the advice MA |
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| Author: | MagicAnalyst [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | ps |
ps....I just wonder whether its because Im only opening the one girl as opposed to the whole group. I wonder if its a lot harder to hook the one girl than the group as a unit, because if the group as a unit socially accept you, then im sure theres a theory that suggests they are more likely to hook (I.E. if all the group think the same thing, that thought / feelign will be much stronger) Hmm will give this a try. thanks MA |
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| Author: | LukeTheGreek [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:44 am ] |
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I usually prefer to open the group rather than my target. It's easier to reach the social-hook point with a group and than ignore and neg your target. Whilst doing this you can focus on your A1 with the target and disengage any obstacles within the group. Than once you think you've reached the right point you can isolate your target (confirm it with the group first) and then you're off to your A2 with the target pretty much. Hope this helps. |
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| Author: | MagicAnalyst [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | opening the group |
thanks. This totally matches the conclusion that I made. Also I think I know why I instinctively approach the target and open only her. Its because I am subconciously aware of concern that if I open the group, the target may walk off! However, logically speaking, if this does happen, at least I can just retarget in my hooked group. Currently, when the target walks off to see her friends because she isnt hooked, Im left with noone. Thanks for your help MA |
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