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| Author: | fenixz [ Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Opening groups in day game: Show interest in target or? |
So I've read in MM that you have to show disinterest in your target and win over the group. The question I want to ask is, does the same apply for day game as well? I understand that day game requires a more direct approach as opposed to indirect in clubs and bars, but do you start ignoring your target after showing initial interest (direct opener) in them? I have yet to try opening to groups for day game, so I need to know if I should maintain the frame that I am interested in the target from the beginning, or should I cut off the interest after opening and win over the group first. Thanks! |
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| Author: | Moreno [ Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:21 am ] |
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no dude,when u go direct then u can't go back to indirect,u can still say funny stuff and tell dhv stories,but no negs and stuff like that, imagine a girl comes up to u, says "hey i noticed u walking down the street and i thought u're so cute i just had to meet you,i'm jane" and after 2 minutes of talking she goes "you and i would fight all the time,we'd never get along" or any other neg-disqualifier,it's not congruent, it's 2 different things,it'll confuse her if u go up to her being "prince charming" openning direct,and then u drop that frame and start being the "badboy",so my advice is,u either go direct,and then build rapport,talk about ur day,ask her about hers,then go to some more personal stuff,it's congruent cause u let know that ur interested in her,so asking rapport questions and talking about urself is normal, negging isnt.Or u can go like alex coulson does,which is he goes indirect-situational, asking for some directions and stuff like that,and then he transitions to some opinion opener,u can catch up some of his videos on utube,hope that helped =) |
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| Author: | fenixz [ Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:58 am ] |
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Hey Moreno! Thank you for your response. You have a point that it isn't coherent to disqualify her right after opening with interest. I have also watched some of Alex's vids before and they are very helpful for day game. However, most of the pickups that I see involves either 1 or 2 girls. With those numbers I should be able to pick up, but I'm looking for advice for opening to groups (like 4 or more people) during day game. Do I have to win over the entire group first, or do I just focus my attention to the one I'm trying to pick up? |
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