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Author:  musiclaproducer [ Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:37 am ]
Post subject:  The Infamous "Friend Zone"
Hey everyone,


So basically my questions is pretty simple. How do you prevent the Infamous "Friend Zone" situation?


Im 18, VERY social, etc, etc. I get along with just about anyone but when it comes to girls I almost ALWAYS end up in the Friend Zone situation and Im still trying to figure out why. I question if Im TOO bubbly, etc or too open. I also wonder if my intentions aren't set soon enough with SPAM. I ask you all for any advice you have and it would mean a lot.

All the best.
Author:  MickCoffee [ Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:11 am ]
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Hey Musiclaproducer

There are three types of guys women categorize us in to, they go as follow:
The Good Guy,
The Bad Guy, and
The Nice Guy.

Lets start with the Good Guy, he is the guy who respects women but most importantly respects his own self-value. Confidence aside, he puts through his own opinion in discussion and no woman changes that. He has good intentions when he approaches girls and usually all his experiences end on good grounds.

The Bad Guy as you could've guessed is the complete opposite, he is a misogynist who picks up women solemly for sex. He is bad and he proudly expresses this and this is what makes him attractive because women have the belief that they can tame him. To their own peril, this usually doesn't end up the case and they end up getting hurt. However, he is confident and does express his own opinion whether he agrees with others' or not.

The Nice Guy, I shall put it bluntly, is bland and forgetable. He never sets up a challenge for women and always agrees with women to the point where they feel totally comfortable around him. This shoves him in the friendzone and although he is accepted into their group, he has almost no chance of having a sexual relationship with them.

So you see, by building too much comfort with women you are either getting rejected or getting shoved into the friend zone. Try not push the conversation to the point where there isn't so much comfort, there's evidence that by keeping sexual tension in the conversation is beneficial when attracting women.

Coffee.
Author:  C-Donker [ Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:45 pm ]
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One good way I know to prevent from being put in that dreadful zone, is KINO. Make sure the girl is completely comfortable with your touch and escalate from there. If you do not touch her early on in the first interaction, she will just think of you as another "nice guy".
Author:  Mr. Valentine [ Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:42 pm ]
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One good way I know to prevent from being put in that dreadful zone, is KINO. Make sure the girl is completely comfortable with your touch and escalate from there. If you do not touch her early on in the first interaction, she will just think of you as another "nice guy".
I'm having a similar problem right now. Kino works fine, but building sexual tension in conversation is really hard. She just doesn't really open up in that department. That's why I worry I will drift in Friend Zone even though everything else is working pretty well.
Author:  Nayail [ Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:08 pm ]
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Avoiding the LJBF zone:

Do not try to solve her problems for her, listen, make a comment such as "i'm sure it'll work out for you" then cjange the subject. You don't want to be the person she runs to with her problems.

Don't be easy, kiss her ass, or agree with her. You're a man, and you need to maintain control. Don't be afraid to say no, disagree or be sarastic.

Let her know that you're intentions are not to be friends but to be more. Flirt, underlying sexual coments and jokes.

And never, ever let her cry on your shoulder about another guy...that's what she has GFs for,
Author:  musiclaproducer [ Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:29 am ]
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Thanks everyone! Anything else?
Author:  Mr. Valentine [ Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:46 pm ]
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Thanks everyone! Anything else?
Yeah, I want to hear some more suggestions too. :)
Author:  karlracki [ Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:47 am ]
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I'm learning from my mistakes already, don't be too nice. Girls don't want to date the nice guys because they're afraid to hurt them in my opinion.

I was asked if I wanted to go somewhere because she had to do something. She asked if I wanted to drive or if I wanted her to drive. I said I would drive, she said but we are going because of me....

I look back now and know why I got the "I got the friend vibe between us"
Author:  maddan [ Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:39 am ]
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have you tryed making her feel jealous?
Author:  taylormade [ Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:22 am ]
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I agree with keno being a very important part of staying out of ljbf
however, I think it's important before keno to let her know what
your intentions are. Now, I'm not saying tell the girl straight up
that you're interested in her sexually. But, you definitely need
to have some sexually inuendo's and underlying context in the things
that you talk about before starting keno.

The trickiest thing about keno is getting it started, once it's
already going everything else kind of falls into place as long
as you're not too chicken shit to do it. My favorite way of
initiating keno is to take the girl somewhere. It doesn't matter
where you take her as long as it involves the two of you moving at
least 10 feet. You say: "Oh, I so have to show you this thing over
here!" then you grab her by the hand and take her there. Not only
does this give you a chance to touch her therefore showing her
that you are interested in her, it also asserts dominance and
confidence two defining qualities that girls are always attracted to.
Author:  ontothenext1 [ Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:56 pm ]
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Gotta build that sexual attraction.

- dont be afraid to say whats on ur mind, if your in the zone, say something sexual but make sure its not too random, but even out of the ordinary sexual comments are good sometimes.

- tell her about yourself in a very high valued way/sexual way

- always be in the lead of the convo, if she jokes or says something about herself, neg her about it and say how ur just so much better then she is.

she will find the above suggestions as a challenge, and will keep coming back for more, its been tested and approved. try it out.
Author:  ConspiracyTheory [ Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:14 pm ]
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this girl has it pretty much: link

guess i can't post links :?: but copy paste here
Quote:
random-girl-explains-the-friend-zone-vt75777.html
Author:  Legit_ [ Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:31 am ]
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Escalate. Then escalate some more, then escalate until she close or she stops you. If she stops you, wait a bit, then escalate again.
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