PUA Forum :: Shot down on Stealth Dance Approaches!

I don't want to step on the toes of one of the more esteemed members here, but that doesn't sound so hot. I'm basing this off of talking to lots of my friends who know nothing about pickup and they just roll up on women too. I thought we were supposed to be the exception to the rule? Not just that, but initiate verbal game right there on the dance floor? That part's an exception since most guys will just grind up on women without the talking so I suppose it saves the first bit, but still.

The dance floor is the one place I let them come to me, because I'm out there to dance! Let them see how much fun I'm having, because I'm in my own world when it's time to get down. Even before I knew about pickup and was a social retard I'd get approached by gorgeous women as I took a breather, sometimes before I hit the floor since I stretch out before rolling out there. Maybe I'm just a much better dancer than I realize. Either way, I treat the heart of the club where lasers and lights live as MY domain so you'd better get out of my way. It actually bugs me when women want to get all grindy when I'm dancing since it's a terrible bore. Bitch, you just saw me cutting loose and flying around and now I've gotta plant roots here? Fuuuuck.

I forgot what my point was, but I think it was that the dance floor is for demonstrating value/social proof by having a blast and not letting anything keep you from it. Have your friends make a circle around you if possible or come up with goofy shit like "The Shotgun," which a guy randomly pitched me once and I've done any time I've been at a club since. Along with the song act like you bump into each other and "get pissed." Then cock an imaginary shotgun and pantomime that you just blew the guy away. Pump his chest (still along with the beat) and bring him back to life. Crowd cheers every time. It'll get women approaching you and your wingman.

You answered your own question in your OP.

The time it worked, you were already full of energy and you were there with someone who you were vibing with and having fun with. The girls notice you initially as a guy who was social and having a great time. When you "accidentally" brushed against them, they were like, "oh that fun guy is behind me, oh he's looking for his friends...oh hi there what's up"

When it didn't work, it was you, not with anyone, having less of a good time, and getting noticed as "that guy going around hitting on girls" so when you brushed up against them it was "oh god it's that same guy who keeps hitting on all the girls, ew get away from me"

(everything from a verbal 'go away' to a martial arts elbow blow to my lower back).

Author:	freedomfalcon [ Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Shot down on Stealth Dance Approaches!
I have been using the dance floor opener featured in Gamblers Stealth Attraction Program (he released all of disk 2 onto youtube, the video is at the bottom of the main forum page). Basically, you dance behind a girl and you start to brush back against her. If she stays where she is, its on. If she steps forward, its not on. If she stays there, you dance to the side of her and make like your looking for a friend while giving a smirk, then you slowly try to turn her towards you, and you initiate verbal game from there. I tried it a few weeks ago when my-roommate/possible-future-wingman and I went to the club. It worked pretty good! I was able to grind on about 5 girls that night and get 2 of them to turn around. It doesn't sound like much but that was more success on the dance floor in one night then in 4 years of high school dances. Fast forward to the last 2 times I went to the same club. NOTHING WORKED!! I would do the brush back technique and they would pull away.Most of the time I would try it a second time just to make sure the first IOD wasn't a fluke. They would also either move away again, or I would get AGGRESSIVELY cockblcoked(everything from a verbal 'go away' to a martial arts elbow blow to my lower back). Sometimes the women would be comfortable, I would do the side dance, get the IOI and start to turn her BUT THEN SOMEONE WOULD PUSH ME AWAY!!! This really baffles me because a)This is supposedly a 'rejection-proof' method and the friend shouldn't even know whats going on, and b)This has worked before!!!WTF is going on?!? Could it just be a series of bad nights?!? The only things that really changed from my night of success to now was that I started wear a fedora in the club, and that my roommate wasn't there. I also had a bonkers amount of energy when I went out with my roommate. The last 2 times I had a fair amount of energy, but I wasn't bouncing off the walls. Can someone with EXPERIENCE using Stealth Attraction help me figure out what I am doing wrong?

Author:	GoldDust [ Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:27 am ]
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It was probably just a bad night. Remember nothing ever works 100% of the time

Author:	Art Sandusky [ Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:06 pm ]
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I don't want to step on the toes of one of the more esteemed members here, but that doesn't sound so hot. I'm basing this off of talking to lots of my friends who know nothing about pickup and they just roll up on women too. I thought we were supposed to be the exception to the rule? Not just that, but initiate verbal game right there on the dance floor? That part's an exception since most guys will just grind up on women without the talking so I suppose it saves the first bit, but still. The dance floor is the one place I let them come to me, because I'm out there to dance! Let them see how much fun I'm having, because I'm in my own world when it's time to get down. Even before I knew about pickup and was a social retard I'd get approached by gorgeous women as I took a breather, sometimes before I hit the floor since I stretch out before rolling out there. Maybe I'm just a much better dancer than I realize. Either way, I treat the heart of the club where lasers and lights live as MY domain so you'd better get out of my way. It actually bugs me when women want to get all grindy when I'm dancing since it's a terrible bore. Bitch, you just saw me cutting loose and flying around and now I've gotta plant roots here? Fuuuuck. I forgot what my point was, but I think it was that the dance floor is for demonstrating value/social proof by having a blast and not letting anything keep you from it. Have your friends make a circle around you if possible or come up with goofy shit like "The Shotgun," which a guy randomly pitched me once and I've done any time I've been at a club since. Along with the song act like you bump into each other and "get pissed." Then cock an imaginary shotgun and pantomime that you just blew the guy away. Pump his chest (still along with the beat) and bring him back to life. Crowd cheers every time. It'll get women approaching you and your wingman.

Author:	freedomfalcon [ Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:50 am ]
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Quote: I don't want to step on the toes of one of the more esteemed members here, but that doesn't sound so hot. I'm basing this off of talking to lots of my friends who know nothing about pickup and they just roll up on women too. I thought we were supposed to be the exception to the rule? Not just that, but initiate verbal game right there on the dance floor? That part's an exception since most guys will just grind up on women without the talking so I suppose it saves the first bit, but still. The dance floor is the one place I let them come to me, because I'm out there to dance! Let them see how much fun I'm having, because I'm in my own world when it's time to get down. Even before I knew about pickup and was a social retard I'd get approached by gorgeous women as I took a breather, sometimes before I hit the floor since I stretch out before rolling out there. Maybe I'm just a much better dancer than I realize. Either way, I treat the heart of the club where lasers and lights live as MY domain so you'd better get out of my way. It actually bugs me when women want to get all grindy when I'm dancing since it's a terrible bore. Bitch, you just saw me cutting loose and flying around and now I've gotta plant roots here? Fuuuuck. I forgot what my point was, but I think it was that the dance floor is for demonstrating value/social proof by having a blast and not letting anything keep you from it. Have your friends make a circle around you if possible or come up with goofy shit like "The Shotgun," which a guy randomly pitched me once and I've done any time I've been at a club since. Along with the song act like you bump into each other and "get pissed." Then cock an imaginary shotgun and pantomime that you just blew the guy away. Pump his chest (still along with the beat) and bring him back to life. Crowd cheers every time. It'll get women approaching you and your wingman. There is something to be said about raising your value by dancing by yourself and not checking out the women and letting them come to you. However the only time it has really been effective for me is if I have been dancing there a while and the dance floor hasn't really picked up yet. It hasn't worked for me yet in a crowded situation. The problem with verbal game on the dance floor is that it is an extremely noisy environment, and trying to do that as your initial wont work well. Since I last posted, I have done more of a do-some-stupid-dance-in-front-of-the-girl-then-engage approach. It has worked pretty good, in fact it lead to a makeout close on Halloween. But I still wonder "Why am I not able to emulate the success I had with the back brush that one night?" The reason I ask this is because it is a great technique if you are approaching a girl on the dance floor and need to be under the radar.It is used to gauge her response to that kino. Only no one since that night has responded well. Any tips on how to make the stealth dance approach work again?

Author:	Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:33 pm ]
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You answered your own question in your OP. The time it worked, you were already full of energy and you were there with someone who you were vibing with and having fun with. The girls notice you initially as a guy who was social and having a great time. When you "accidentally" brushed against them, they were like, "oh that fun guy is behind me, oh he's looking for his friends...oh hi there what's up" When it didn't work, it was you, not with anyone, having less of a good time, and getting noticed as "that guy going around hitting on girls" so when you brushed up against them it was "oh god it's that same guy who keeps hitting on all the girls, ew get away from me" The secret for most of gambler's (and Adam's) stuff revolves around raising your value in the venue first. Before you try to force an IOI or do a direct opener or try the dancefloor stuff, first make sure you've opened some sets, interacted with women, and are having a great time. THEN you will increase your chances of a successful approach, but remember that nothing works 100% of the time.

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Author:	funkleton [ Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:26 pm ]
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Quote: You answered your own question in your OP. The time it worked, you were already full of energy and you were there with someone who you were vibing with and having fun with. The girls notice you initially as a guy who was social and having a great time. When you "accidentally" brushed against them, they were like, "oh that fun guy is behind me, oh he's looking for his friends...oh hi there what's up" When it didn't work, it was you, not with anyone, having less of a good time, and getting noticed as "that guy going around hitting on girls" so when you brushed up against them it was "oh god it's that same guy who keeps hitting on all the girls, ew get away from me" I've got to go with this one. women are used to having guys grind up against them on dance floors - its mundane - sometimes they like the attention - sometimes they dont - either way you immediately disqualify from being the excpetion from the rule and will probbaly expect you to buy them a drink for the priviledge of doing it - it means nothing. You're the man - you can take it or leave it - they come to you.

Author:	funkleton [ Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:32 pm ]
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Quote: You answered your own question in your OP. The time it worked, you were already full of energy and you were there with someone who you were vibing with and having fun with. The girls notice you initially as a guy who was social and having a great time. When you "accidentally" brushed against them, they were like, "oh that fun guy is behind me, oh he's looking for his friends...oh hi there what's up" When it didn't work, it was you, not with anyone, having less of a good time, and getting noticed as "that guy going around hitting on girls" so when you brushed up against them it was "oh god it's that same guy who keeps hitting on all the girls, ew get away from me" I've got to go with this one. women are used to having guys grind up against them on dance floors - its mundane - sometimes they like the attention - sometimes they dont - either way you immediately disqualify from being the excpetion from the rule and whether they like the attention or not, it means nothing. You're the man - you can take it or leave it - they come to you.

Author:	freedomfalcon [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:01 pm ]
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Blondguy was defiantly right about value raising. Since I posted this topic, I've been doing a lot of field practice on raising my value in clubs/bars, and I have had more then one occasion where I was doing my value-building on the dance floor (aka not-obviously checking out the women and having a good time), when women would basically ambush me and start dancing with me on the dance floor. For now, I don't use the back brush tactic anymore, I might try it again sometime, but only after I have high value. Thanks everyone for your help!

Author:	topliner [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:32 am ]
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Dance floor chat is brilliant, say anything with a smile and good eye contact good body language, non verbals etc (standard pick up stuff) She will lean in just to speak and you have a chance for a bit of kino. When saying something gentle hand on her hip and say what ever you want any thing to keep her asking questions this is the time where you can let your touch and non verbals do the work. I always always say come with me for a cigarette if you don't smoke think of something else to take her to a quiet place but the smoking thing is usually works for me because its not obvious, if she doesn't smoke just say no problem "you can stand with me" usually works. Lead her out by the hand not strong hand holding grab a few of her finger tips and look around like its no big deal. If u wanna run game outside do it, I sometimes do it just for the sake and if i fancy a cigarette, another bonus is you are seen crossing a busy dance floor with a girl good for social value. This kind of thing is all about letting both of you know something is going on without being obvious just so she doesn't 100% figure you out.

Author:	bvanevery [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:42 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Shot down on Stealth Dance Approaches!
Quote: (everything from a verbal 'go away' to a martial arts elbow blow to my lower back). NICE! Think you just came up with the sequel to Fight Club. You can't write this shit. We're calling it Dance Club. "I opened over and over again. An elbow to the gut every time."

Author:	BoomPow [ Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:12 am ]
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from what i've learned, i personally don't do much talking on the dance floor. it's too damn loud. i use the dance floor to build attraction and then do most of my talking when i get her off the floor. this guy has some pretty good tips on dance floor game: http://www.youtube.com/flirt2thebeat -BoomPow out!

Author:	BoomPow [ Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:44 am ]
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was wondering if anyone here is in los angeles and where they go clubbing? thanks!

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