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Author:  strikerno8 [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:  brilliant opener
This can be used anywhere and.adapted to various situations

Works best for hb 8's 9's etc who know they look good,here's how it works

Pua: hey girls me and x,y,z ( your friends names) where lookin some attractive/fun girls 2 join us for some drinks

Girls: giggles,hair playin, smiling etc...mayb even make some remark

Pua; smirk back and cooly say 'you don't know where we could find some?' (Works as a part neg while also breaking the ixe,using on girls who aren't actually attractice isn't a good idea as they may take offence,hot girls won't :) )

Timing is key here

Girls: more laughin,mayb tell you where etc.

Pua: go into some routines,properly introduce yourself,ask they to join you and friends

This can be adapted to eg 'me and my friends are lookin some cool girls 2 help us shop, join us to eat...basically anythin


Opinions please
Author:  big_dish [ Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:04 am ]
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I like this one, seems like something I would say to girls naturally (prior to even knowing anything whatsoever about pua)
Author:  tacocat [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:24 am ]
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This is a direct opener, which sounds good, but I'm not sure how effective it may be.

I'm no expert, but I learned not to call a group of girls "girls/ladies/etc" because it just comes out a bit sleazy.

Have you used this opener and if yes, what were your results?
Author:  Gabstur [ Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:20 am ]
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Quote:
This is a direct opener, which sounds good, but I'm not sure how effective it may be.

I'm no expert, but I learned not to call a group of girls "girls/ladies/etc" because it just comes out a bit sleazy.

Have you used this opener and if yes, what were your results?
so if not "girls/ladies/etc/" what do u recommend to call a group of girls?
Author:  Existentialist [ Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:20 pm ]
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'Hey guys.'
Author:  vizzy [ Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: brilliant opener
Quote:

Pua: hey girls me and x,y,z ( your friends names) where lookin some attractive/fun girls 2 join us for some drinks

Girls: giggles,hair playin, smiling etc...mayb even make some remark

Pua; smirk back and cooly say 'you don't know where we could find some?' (Works as a part neg while also breaking the ixe,using on girls who aren't actually attractice isn't a good idea as they may take offence,hot girls won't :) )


Opinions please
The first part of the opener, I was thinking - yes. Good.

Then the second part I was like - if it ain't broke: don't fix it.

It WOULD work in some situations.
But I don't understand this desire by guys to neg everything that moves.

Stupid to me.

But to be honest, this opener would work. Just not to all girls. Like you said - unattractive girls: no. Attractive girls: yes.

Just more advice: I never think about the opener, it's always how you transition from there. You could have the tightest opener on the planet that'll make her cream, but it ain't nothing if you don't got anything to say after that.

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Just on another note: negs don't work well for me; I am a fairly good looking guy (girls consider me VERY good looking...but I'm modest :P). (I wasn't always very attractive, but I worked on it ;) )
So I have used negs at the beginning, and many girls would feel like they are below me and I'm just treating them badly. I've been in situations where after I made out with a girl, or slept with a girl, she would feel very self conscious in my presence.
I basically fixed this by just going very direct and straightforward. Although this may not work for all guys.

Any other guys been in similar situations to myself?
Author:  PhantomPUA [ Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:45 am ]
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I really like this and it could be very useful. But like the others said direct openers are very tricky for some people and I have experienced they had a high risk of a negative out come, rather than indirect. But hey if this works for you keep using it more power to you.
Author:  ElitePUA [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:38 am ]
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Wouldn't it be directly and straightforward if you just opened with "hey girls me and x,y,z ( your friends names) where lookin some attractive/fun girls 2 join us for some drinks" and don't mention the rest and then ask for their names? Wouldn't that be better then just putting them down from the beginning? I mean it may work if your goodlooking and deliver it playfully.
Author:  DanReborn [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:59 pm ]
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I actualy like the neg here, im definately going to use it. I love using negs, the harsher the better, providing u have a good save to follow.
Author:  Visionxxxxxx [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:07 pm ]
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Quote:
Just on another note: negs don't work well for me; I am a fairly good looking guy (girls consider me VERY good looking...but I'm modest Razz). (I wasn't always very attractive, but I worked on it Wink )
So I have used negs at the beginning, and many girls would feel like they are below me and I'm just treating them badly. I've been in situations where after I made out with a girl, or slept with a girl, she would feel very self conscious in my presence.
I basically fixed this by just going very direct and straightforward. Although this may not work for all guys.

Any other guys been in similar situations to myself?
Vizzy, your're probably coming across as a bit to harsh/cocky without enough humour. No matter how good looking you are, if its witty she will enjoy it and will not feel self conscious about it. But as you say if direct is working for you then great. I would mix it up a bit though and experiment. If you find yourself offending girls and making them self conscious you need to ease up a bit.
Author:  vizzy [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:50 am ]
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Quote:
Quote:
Just on another note: negs don't work well for me; I am a fairly good looking guy (girls consider me VERY good looking...but I'm modest Razz). (I wasn't always very attractive, but I worked on it Wink )
So I have used negs at the beginning, and many girls would feel like they are below me and I'm just treating them badly. I've been in situations where after I made out with a girl, or slept with a girl, she would feel very self conscious in my presence.
I basically fixed this by just going very direct and straightforward. Although this may not work for all guys.

Any other guys been in similar situations to myself?
Vizzy, your're probably coming across as a bit to harsh/cocky without enough humour. No matter how good looking you are, if its witty she will enjoy it and will not feel self conscious about it. But as you say if direct is working for you then great. I would mix it up a bit though and experiment. If you find yourself offending girls and making them self conscious you need to ease up a bit.
Nah I did have humor in it. Sometimes I would even say I was joking, although it would be pretty obvious as the way I would say it + people would find it funny. The girls would laugh and all. I never "offended" them. But I do think the use of negs made some of them self conscious.
Author:  Mystrix [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:22 am ]
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u gotta work a lil on the first part,

the success rate of this IMO would be, lets say 30% max.

the rest is good.
Author:  BreakTheSet [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:24 pm ]
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I think the Opener is just ok and the NEG is aweful and I like negs. I think most girls will just say "There a plenty of girls here go look" unless you are good looking guy and they are already attracted to you..

How about changing it up this way:

Hey ... my friend and I are looking for some attractive/fun girls 2 play a bar game with (dont offer girls drinks!!!).

We looked around and couldnt find any so we came to you (big close smile).

This is 100x better IMHO. Now you would need a physical game like thumb war or just come up with one.
Author:  Slipfinger [ Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:04 am ]
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Hehe, do this and you will get a *go f urselves, now thats fun!"

in other words I would not bet all of my cash on this one, sorry to say - its just something every other AFC uses.

the " we are looking for something fun " womens minds are hard wired diff from ours.


SF
Author:  'Vlad' [ Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:25 am ]
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Well I would like to say that I am relatively experienced, and that I just LOVE this!

I think it's awesome and is the sort of line that will work between 8-11pm, in the first bar/s and before the club...

I'll give it a go tomorrow and let you all know how it compares.

I think ALL openers are dependant on your STYLE of game though to be truthful
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