PUA Forum :: Challenge her opener

I was in a bar that has a few arcade games and one of those stupid basketball games with the moving hoop. There was a ridiculously hot blonde in the other side of the bar, by far the hottest girl in the place. Great face, great body, dress that was clinging perfectly.

I walked by her to get to the bathroom. When I came out I though, what do I have to lose? I approach her from behind, touch her at the elbow

Me: Are you up for a challenge?
Her: (funny look) What kind of challenge?
Me: The basketball game.
Her: (grabs her purse) I am so gonna kick your ass!

She and her hot asian friend followed me to the other end of the bar. It must've looked good. Me walking in front and two hot chicks following. We play to see who gets the higher score, me + friend or them two. They go first, we go second and win. They ask for a rematch but want us to buy drinks if we lose. Yet they refuse to buy if we win. I bite anyway. We go first and as we are owning at the game I see that they walked away. I guess they were just drink hustlers. But I've used it before to open successfully. I guess it could be hit or miss but it's a fun way of opening.

I figure they were just drink hustlers 'cause later on I just saw them continuously migrate from different sets of guys, the guys getting drinks for them every time.

But you're right, I was too focused on the game haha. Intention was just to open a conversation and hopefully get a number out of it.

I like the neg em about being drink hustlers, but i also think you should have flipped the script on them especially if you had a wing on it. I would have said OK to playing them yet you needed to get a drink before you started. Go to the bar, get your drinks and step off somewhere else. Dont go directly back to them right away since you think they are trying to hustle you. Make them chase you at that point for a sec. Stop and open a set on the way back and "accidentally" forget about the first ones, this way they come to you like hey are we going to play this game or what? DHV and validating you to the new set, and you can use the game with the other HB's to set a false time constraint. Use one set against the other, especially if she was a 10. Make her jelouse that you find this set more interesting than her set.

Author:	DorkusMalorkus [ Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:53 am ]
Post subject:	Challenge her opener
I was in a bar that has a few arcade games and one of those stupid basketball games with the moving hoop. There was a ridiculously hot blonde in the other side of the bar, by far the hottest girl in the place. Great face, great body, dress that was clinging perfectly. I walked by her to get to the bathroom. When I came out I though, what do I have to lose? I approach her from behind, touch her at the elbow Me: Are you up for a challenge? Her: (funny look) What kind of challenge? Me: The basketball game. Her: (grabs her purse) I am so gonna kick your ass! She and her hot asian friend followed me to the other end of the bar. It must've looked good. Me walking in front and two hot chicks following. We play to see who gets the higher score, me + friend or them two. They go first, we go second and win. They ask for a rematch but want us to buy drinks if we lose. Yet they refuse to buy if we win. I bite anyway. We go first and as we are owning at the game I see that they walked away. I guess they were just drink hustlers. But I've used it before to open successfully. I guess it could be hit or miss but it's a fun way of opening.

Author:	xxIcexx [ Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:58 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Challenge her opener
Quote: I was in a bar that has a few arcade games and one of those stupid basketball games with the moving hoop. There was a ridiculously hot blonde in the other side of the bar, by far the hottest girl in the place. Great face, great body, dress that was clinging perfectly. I walked by her to get to the bathroom. When I came out I though, what do I have to lose? I approach her from behind, touch her at the elbow Me: Are you up for a challenge? Her: (funny look) What kind of challenge? Me: The basketball game. Her: (grabs her purse) I am so gonna kick your ass! She and her hot asian friend followed me to the other end of the bar. It must've looked good. Me walking in front and two hot chicks following. We play to see who gets the higher score, me + friend or them two. They go first, we go second and win. They ask for a rematch but want us to buy drinks if we lose. Yet they refuse to buy if we win. I bite anyway. We go first and as we are owning at the game I see that they walked away. I guess they were just drink hustlers. But I've used it before to open successfully. I guess it could be hit or miss but it's a fun way of opening. ahhh dude you shoulda let them win that second game, who cares if they just wanted drinks, whats 10 bucks??? but on the other end what were your intentions??? because the way you stated what they said, it didnt sound like they were in it for drinks from the start

Author:	DorkusMalorkus [ Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:25 am ]
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I figure they were just drink hustlers 'cause later on I just saw them continuously migrate from different sets of guys, the guys getting drinks for them every time. But you're right, I was too focused on the game haha. Intention was just to open a conversation and hopefully get a number out of it.

Author:	oldschool662 [ Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:36 am ]
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Quote: I figure they were just drink hustlers 'cause later on I just saw them continuously migrate from different sets of guys, the guys getting drinks for them every time. But you're right, I was too focused on the game haha. Intention was just to open a conversation and hopefully get a number out of it. na dude I think you are right that they were drink hustlers. If you would have let them win and bought them a drink you would have looked like an AFC and you would have been no different than those other guys. In my opinion you should have not accepted the 2nd game under HER terms, and neg them about being 'drink hustlers' or whatever (just make sure its C&F)

Author:	iam fuzz [ Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:06 am ]
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I also agree that your observations were correct. Although, i think you coulda tried to get them to play for something other than drinks (something creative) if you didnt want to buy em drinks. -fuzz

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Author:	RawWingman [ Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:58 pm ]
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I like the neg em about being drink hustlers, but i also think you should have flipped the script on them especially if you had a wing on it. I would have said OK to playing them yet you needed to get a drink before you started. Go to the bar, get your drinks and step off somewhere else. Dont go directly back to them right away since you think they are trying to hustle you. Make them chase you at that point for a sec. Stop and open a set on the way back and "accidentally" forget about the first ones, this way they come to you like hey are we going to play this game or what? DHV and validating you to the new set, and you can use the game with the other HB's to set a false time constraint. Use one set against the other, especially if she was a 10. Make her jelouse that you find this set more interesting than her set.

Author:	Cretin105 [ Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:31 pm ]
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Quote: I like the neg em about being drink hustlers, but i also think you should have flipped the script on them especially if you had a wing on it. I would have said OK to playing them yet you needed to get a drink before you started. Go to the bar, get your drinks and step off somewhere else. Dont go directly back to them right away since you think they are trying to hustle you. Make them chase you at that point for a sec. Stop and open a set on the way back and "accidentally" forget about the first ones, this way they come to you like hey are we going to play this game or what? DHV and validating you to the new set, and you can use the game with the other HB's to set a false time constraint. Use one set against the other, especially if she was a 10. Make her jelouse that you find this set more interesting than her set. probably the illest advice right right . . .. thats fucking awesome . . . listen to that guy that would have been perfect . .. Girls operate on jealousy and that might have worked . .. o well live and learn but thats awesome if you could have pulled this off

Author:	philosophy [ Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:	good op for negging
I like the opener, competitive sports are always a great way to break the ice. However, I would have to agree....you could have found something else to bet, or, you could have neged the shit out of her when they said they wouldnt buy you a drink if they lost. Thats bullshit. You should have said staright up, "you girls must just be drink hustlers" "let me know when you want to play fair" and straight up walk away right after saying that. You're the prize not them. In every sarge you've got to be ready to just walk away. Either way, props on the sarge, have a good backup bet ready for next time.

Author:	Evoke [ Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:46 pm ]
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You could've used the fact that they didn't want to buy if they lost as a great way to neg... Oh, wait...you're blonde. Do I need to explain how betting works to you? (like you're talking to a kid) If they still didn't want to buy... OK, so you can't afford a round of drinks, then how about something that doesn't cost a thing...I win, then you will give me a backrub for 5 mins.

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