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Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Is this an AFC move?
Hey Fellaz,I was wonedring if this is AFCish.

Iv'e been chatting with this HB8.5 over the past 2 weeks. I usually call her or text firstdespite trying to keep it 50/50.

Irony is,she rarely replies to my text msgs[I know the why's based on what the seduction comm' teaches].But I still text her every other day without expecting a reply;more to generate DHV.

Now the question is,would it be AFCish to keep doing this over the coming weeks(texting her every 2 days)?
Author:  JSmooth [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is this an AFC move?
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Hey Fellaz,I was wonedring if this is AFCish.

Iv'e been chatting with this HB8.5 over the past 2 weeks. I usually call her or text firstdespite trying to keep it 50/50.

Irony is,she rarely replies to my text msgs[I know the why's based on what the seduction comm' teaches].But I still text her every other day without expecting a reply;more to generate DHV.

Now the question is,would it be AFCish to keep doing this over the coming weeks(texting her every 2 days)?
Yes, if you are sending her a lot of messages without getting a lot of responses then you are investing more into this than she is. We need to turn that around. You may want to freeze her out for a little while...
Author:  samex [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:04 pm ]
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Basically to elaborate on what Jsmooth said... You are rewarding her bad behavior, but showing her that its ok to NOT text you back, because you will text her again anyways.

Now take a moment and ask yourself is that what you want from this girl...NO


Move along, your a cool guy with energy, don't invest in something that won't give you a return. There are a lot of other girls out there that would be alot more willing to respond.


salem alakoom.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:16 pm ]
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Good advice Samex & JSmooth.

I know better.I know not to be doing that but...

My main fear[and it sounds AFCish]is that I may loose this chicc all together if I freeze out in order to make her miss me or what not. I guess if she doesnt get becc to me after a freeze out,that could mean she was never into me after all or lost interest(perhaps because I was chasing too much,i.e.texting too often).

Thanks guys.
Author:  Ezo [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:22 pm ]
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What you describe is really her telling you "Hey Im not really that much into you.".

I could be wrong but if I were you I would not waste any time on her.

Ezo
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:34 pm ]
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I hear you Ezo.

This may sound arrogant but Im to the point where I think my game is so strong that any chicc whom I # close could never be disinterested in me(lol). Well,thats the ultimate goal-mastery but you will get blown out and rejected and Im comfortable with that.
Author:  Ezo [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:41 pm ]
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Hehe! Im all for arrogance... ;) But seriously that statement is just not true. That is impossible. We all get rejected once in a while. Even the great gurus get rejected.

If you cannot see the possibility that you might lose some then you still have things to learn. I used to think just like you but believe me, when I realized that we all fail sometimes, my game got wway better than I could imagine. So much more natural. Thats when I learned that we are not just picking up girls. We are evaluating them as potential partners. We have the power, they are free to join but they are also free to leave. Why would we care? We choose!

So that attitude is impressive and cool etc etc but dont let it get to your head. Im telling you because I have been there not to diss you.

Ezo
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:04 am ]
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Definitely Ezo;I was just being a bit over the top about rejection.

I get rejected;often,since I sarge often. I dont get upset as before when I crash and burn,lose a set,get interrupted. I was that guy who used to curse girls out in set when they shit test me or get attitudes. Now,rejection aint that bad(lol)
Author:  Favpudev [ Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:44 pm ]
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Also think about how needy and desparate you appear by txting her every other day when she doesn't even reply. I'm trying to blow off a girl because she's too clingy and she txts me every few days as well. It makes me have no interest in her at all. That's probably how you're making the girl feel.
Author:  [Vegas] [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:44 am ]
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But I still text her every other day without expecting a reply;more to generate DHV.
In my opinion, this is quite the opposite. It's not generating DHV, but rather lowering your value. If you keep texting her repeatedly and she is rarely or not replying at all, chances are you are just coming off as a pest to her. Don't be needy/clingy/all that cliche stuff.
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My main fear[and it sounds AFCish]is that I may loose this chicc all together if I freeze out in order to make her miss me or what not. I guess if she doesnt get becc to me after a freeze out,that could mean she was never into me after all or lost interest(perhaps because I was chasing too much,i.e.texting too often).
I wouldn't worry about losing her on a freeze out because she is already rarely or not responding to you. It seems like you understand what you are doing here, now you just need to fix the mistake you already found - texting her too much without a reply. If she's not conveying to you that she is very interested, which she obviously isn't or else you wouldn't be asking what to do, then I'm not entirely sure how effective a freeze out would be. Put simply, if she isn't paying much attention to you now, why would she pay more attention after a freeze out?

Just as an after thought to what I just said, I suppose a freeze out would give her some space and you can start clean after some time has passed. I wouldn't expect her to come chasing you though based on what you have said.

My advice if you want to focus on this girl is to just tone it down a bit with the whole contacting her first part. Don't text her just for the sake of texting her. Keep it short and to the point. Maybe wait a few days or a week after not communicating and just drop her a short text inviting her to a party or some kind of fun social outing on a weekend. I wouldn't go straight for a one on one date because I don't feel she is completely into you yet... which could make her flake or feel uncomfortable.

If I am misunderstanding something please let me know. I don't know either of you two or your personalities so maybe I'm coming at this from the wrong perspective. I'm more than willing to help any way I can.
Author:  p3gyy [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:22 am ]
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hello bud, no back away fondness makes the heart grow fonder, sounds like she is control mate.
i guarentee if you stop texting within a week she will chase you!!!
TRY IT !!!
Author:  Ezo [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:20 am ]
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hello bud, no back away fondness makes the heart grow fonder, sounds like she is control mate.
i guarentee if you stop texting within a week she will chase you!!!
TRY IT !!!
Not in this case. Freeze outs only work if she has interest. This girl does not. It is a lost cause.
Author:  Favpudev [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:45 pm ]
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Not in this case. Freeze outs only work if she has interest. This girl does not. It is a lost cause.
+1. Next her.
Author:  Unknown001 [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:03 pm ]
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No point in chasing a a target that does not have any interest in you. Though you are keeping it non needy by not texting her 24/7 you are still texting her more then you should be receiving. Is it a AFC move? No... The AFC would think there is hope as long as he continues to text her and text her and text her... you get the point. You on the other hand K-loc are learning about your ignorance and mistakes which is what mainly separates a PUA from a AFC.

On a plus note, i think you guys should stay friends. I dont mean it in a AFC kind of way. Hear me out. She could have some hot friends and seeing as you befriended your current target already, say if you were to hook up with one of her friends she will DHV you right of the back (seeing are you guys are already friends).
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