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Author:  nS-AFC [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  Facebook opening on a HB9
Hey guys,

I've found myself attracted to a girl with whom i have many mutual friends. Met her once before and seen her about at clubs but never really had the "game" or confidence to initiate a conversation.
My brother and her brother have recently become good mates at school, and i'd really like to get to no her.
Adding her on facebook and then messaging her seem the only reasonable way for me to contact her at the moment, but i'm thinking this may just b awkward because i don't really no her, so i wud like sum advice on maybe a message i cud send with my friend invite to help break the ice a bit and make the whole process seem more comfortable, not just for her, but for me as well!

What do people think of:

"Hey, how u doing? Considering my brother and ur brother seem to be getting all chummy, i thought i'd try and give u the benefit of the doubt :P"

Any comments wud be much appreciated.
I've only just started with this whole PUA thing and realised i probs need to because my openings have always been god awful. Once girls get to no me tho they end up really enjoying my company whether its friends or dating, but first impressions have always been bad!

Cheers!
Author:  PsychDoc [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Facebook opening on a HB9
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Hey guys,

I've found myself attracted to a girl with whom i have many mutual friends. Met her once before and seen her about at clubs but never really had the "game" or confidence to initiate a conversation.
My brother and her brother have recently become good mates at school, and i'd really like to get to no her.
Adding her on facebook and then messaging her seem the only reasonable way for me to contact her at the moment, but i'm thinking this may just b awkward because i don't really no her, so i wud like sum advice on maybe a message i cud send with my friend invite to help break the ice a bit and make the whole process seem more comfortable, not just for her, but for me as well!

What do people think of:

"Hey, how u doing? Considering my brother and ur brother seem to be getting all chummy, i thought i'd try and give u the benefit of the doubt :P"

Any comments wud be much appreciated.
I've only just started with this whole PUA thing and realised i probs need to because my openings have always been god awful. Once girls get to no me tho they end up really enjoying my company whether its friends or dating, but first impressions have always been bad!

Cheers!
From what I know of watching hours of PUA material, and from what I've read in Gambler's book, you're just not being playful or cocky enough with that chat-up line. If you have a TON of social proof (hot girls hanging off of you all the time or tons of friends that adore you), then you can go in trying to build rapport. Otherwise, you've got to DHV, and that means being cocky/funny/flirty.

I think disqualification takes on another level when doing online game. It's just too easy to zip an e-mail to a hot girl. There is seriously 0% balls required to "approach" a woman online, so you've gotta make up for that in your message. So, maybe open with, "Is your brother gay, because I am getting some serious homo-vibes from him, and I'm not particularly interested. I have enough gay stalkers as is..." Maybe make it sound more playful. But whatever you send to her, it can in NO WAY be percieved as you picking up on her. Seriously, imagine how many e-mails she must get from weak-sauce guys trying to suck-up to her.

I have ended up in an actual relationship with a girl I met online- an HB 8. I actually OPENED with a disqualification statement- "It's a shame you have x problem, because from your profile it looks like we have a ton in common." In her next e-mail she proceeded to re-open and qualify me ("I LOVE tall guys!"). BUT, I stood out because I wasn't trying to hit on her, and I made it clear that I wasn't trying to win her over just because she was cute.

Anyways, what you want your first (it might be your last!) e-mail to convey to her is that you're a guy with an almost unrealistically confident mental frame. She will want to get to know you just based on that alone. Good luck, and keep us posted on your results...
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:24 pm ]
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From what I know of watching hours of PUA material, and from what I've read in Gambler's book, you're just not being playful or cocky enough with that chat-up line
not true ... i crack girls up when e-gaming.. to be honest you look less incongruent when gaming online because the body language and facial expression factor is eliminated. voice tonality is also important in real life gaming..... actually i can call myself an expert in online gaming because girls never flaked on me when gaming online ( 95% succeed rating ) however that doesn't mean your good in real life face to face and i often fucked up in the follow through .

however you can look incongruent when you meet them in real life while you've really hooked them over internet.
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I think disqualification takes on another level when doing online game. It's just too easy to zip an e-mail to a hot girl. There is seriously 0% balls required to "approach" a woman online
true... that is why you can say shit .. you can say whatever you want because nobody cares

you have to be 100 % cocky/ funny / teasing all the time.. you can't be 90 % you can't be 80 % , you have no kino and no direct emotional attraction the only thing you can convey is you do interesting stuff and your fun.

and you have to be fun all the time ... you can't have 1 boring conversation out of 5... if you feel like your going to get boring break of the conversation... tell her you are going to dancing lessons or whatever ( next time you can talk about dancing ) always end with a topic and don't just say plain '' i got to go '' because woman will restart a certain topic out of interest.
look on the internet for material .. watch some comedy movies to get in the zone

AND ABOVE ALL talk about everything ..... ''hey how your doing '' can be a 45 minute conversations if you are talkative. Men need to learn to talk more and woman need to learn to talk less , what you will see if you talk 90 % of the time the girl won't say shit - BUT she still invest with IOIs by reaction quick and being present all the time, she doesn't let you wait.

one thing noted ... Be honest when your gaming online because girls won't believe you anyway.

me : well im not like all other men ... i don't think about sex that often.
she : so what do you think about ?
me : fucking the shit out of you and your girlfriend
she : haha, are you really so oversexed and easy to get ?
me : no .. find your own cock .. this ones mine :P


not telegraphing sexual interest is bullshit.. in real life gaming you can't telegraph to some degree but when your gaming online you can say shit because you can turn it into something funny. people are less likely to take you serious or be insulted when talking online.
DO telegraph when gaming online AND DO turn it into a joke, i steered so many woman into sexual topics by making the subject acceptable. and if she talks about sex you can bet she is kinky enough to suck you soon.

if she stopped investing : she doesn't invest and doesn't react then FREEZE her OUT , if she doesn't want to hear your shit you will go talk to someone else. either she talks to you or you talk to someone else you don't talk to a brick wall.
bust her balls ... just say ''hey im talking to you and you don't reply.. that ain't cool im not talking to a brick wall here am i ?''

i gamed sooooo many woman online and met them in real life .. dated and fucked them........ The whole concept is getting boring at this point because it's too easy - woman are offered cock every day and when she's interested in you online you can bet she wants some cock in real life.

Most woman bored me ... i didn't find them fun enough .. that's because im way more funny and i make the jokes - like i mensioned im talking 90 % of the time mixed with freeze outs to bust her balls. if they ain't funny over internet they ain't fun in real life and this is often true. from the start im controlling them into meeting me or liking me ....if your game is really tight you can hook a girl into liking you in lets say ... 5 minutes.

it's doesn't matter how you do it ..... which tools you use ... if it doesn't work you make it work -Trail and error- it's unbelievable what kind of shit people tell you online without really knowing them. it's easy to say personal stuff because you don't know the person .. but once they have told you they are emotionally invested to some degree.

one note : online gaming does suck to some point .. you have invisible social proof online '' oh i got 900 friends on facebook '' ITS ALL BULLSHIT however some guys are intimidated by those values. Most girls i gamed online were shy and distant in real life they need some form of attention and they don't get enough in real life so they talk online. Most people who got alot of friends online think they are the shit , BUT THEY AREN'T shit , they just are deluded by their own illusions.

you can create invisible social proof by telling certain stories... as long you are congruent in real life.

Girls who i've met online are way more unstable than the ones you meet in real life you often encounter the troubled types. especially girls who broke up with their BF ... they stop talking they get depressed and they lose contact with social life they often use internet to meet other people because they still feel like shit but realise their social life sucks.

i had 3 relationships with girls who i've met online.... all were HB 8 or 9's , some people say only ugly girls or losers date online ... THIS isn't true'but the majority is screwed up tho.
Author:  SLeven [ Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:21 am ]
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NO! dont facebook her. If you see her around, it will be way easier if you just went up to her and said "hey, i know you! yeah your brother is friends with my brother right? im "your name" by the way. and take it from their
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:55 pm ]
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you can facebook her ... it's no problem but of course it's better to meet her in real life first. stop telling people they shouldn't do something .. i facebooked girls before i even met them and even had relationships with them.

don't concentrate on facebook tho .. .real life is more important , you don't want to have a internet relationship. it takes more balls to make a phone call , it all depends on how many balls you want to show and how much you want to show them.
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