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Author:  nermob [ Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:52 am ]
Post subject:  Does how much C/F you should use depend on your looks?
Of course Cocky/Funny is an important part of pick up, but have you guys ever put thought into whether how much you use depends on how physically attractive you are?

Would a guy that looks like a male model come off as a douche to the HB, where the same girl would just laugh it off in the case of an Average Looks Joe who employs the same amount of C/F?

While playing social circle game (where, like it or not, you get a lot of feedback on your performance) I've found that being c/f I have sometimes come off as a jerk to a girl and been blown out when I thought I was using the same amount as say some other guy who honestly I know I'm physically more attractive than.

Your thoughts?
Author:  LaVitaèBreve [ Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:59 am ]
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Ya know, I've never really put much thought into it. Cocky/funny has always been just me naturally to extent, and I think most women I game pick up on that fairly quickly because its border line non-stop from open to close(#,K, or F).

I don't believe physical attractiveness has anything to do with it. I'm not someone that women get wet over just thinking about but even if I was THAT ATTRACTIVE i'd still use the same amount of Cocky/funny on every target.
Author:  nermob [ Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:27 am ]
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Ya know, I've never really put much thought into it. Cocky/funny has always been just me naturally to extent, and I think most women I game pick up on that fairly quickly because its border line non-stop from open to close(#,K, or F).

I don't believe physical attractiveness has anything to do with it. I'm not someone that women get wet over just thinking about but even if I was THAT ATTRACTIVE i'd still use the same amount of Cocky/funny on every target.
I see what you're saying. And I do agree, you should do the same amount of c/f on every girl. It shouldn't change depending on the girl. BUT should it change depending on the guy? Hmmmm....

Let's say on a physicality-only attraction scale, LaVitaèBreve is a seriously hot 9 lol ;) and I'm a 7. Can I get away with more cocky/funny?

I ask this because on several occasions a few good plutonic female friends of mine in the past years have told me during a heart to heart, "you know, you are much cuter than you think." And it recently got me thinking about how one of my on/off sticking points has been overdoing the cocky/funny. While some solid natural's that I know (yet not particular attractive) are WAY Cockier than me and it works out great for them.

Or maybe "you know, you are much cuter THAN YOU THINK" should tell me that I have an inner game issue that needs to be resolved, not a "technique" issue. You guys don't have to be my psychologists, since that's MY homework to figure out, but some more thoughts on my original question would be interesting:

Does how much C/F you should use depend on your looks?
Author:  jurupa [ Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:36 am ]
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I see what you're saying. And I do agree, you should do the same amount of c/f on every girl. It shouldn't change depending on the girl. BUT should it change depending on the guy? Hmmmm....
You need to flip that around actually. Because if you use the same amount of C/F on every single girl you approach you are in no way increasing your chances of getting her number. You should ALWAYS adjust your game to the girl you are approaching. As no two girls are the same, and using set game plan is not going to do you any favors.
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I ask this because on several occasions a few good plutonic female friends of mine in the past years have told me during a heart to heart, "you know, you are much cuter than you think." And it recently got me thinking about how one of my on/off sticking points has been overdoing the cocky/funny. While some solid natural's that I know (yet not particular attractive) are WAY Cockier than me and it works out great for them.
You can generally never be too cocky. There are times when you need to tone it down or not use it at all. But you need to analyze the social environment around you tho.
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Or maybe "you know, you are much cuter THAN YOU THINK" should tell me that I have an inner game issue that needs to be resolved, not a "technique" issue. You guys don't have to be my psychologists, since that's MY homework to figure out, but some more thoughts on my original question would be interesting:
This is just a guess but I think they are more telling you to own your looks more and be confident about them.
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Does how much C/F you should use depend on your looks?
Nope. How much you should used as I mentioned before should depend on the girl you are approaching not the other way around.
Author:  nermob [ Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:41 am ]
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jurupa, you've given me several things to think about.
thanks very much! :)
Author:  jurupa [ Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:00 am ]
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Your welcome.
Author:  jackstraw [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:10 pm ]
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This is a very interesting topic. Im a male model who has used c and f for some time....It has worked tremendously but i definately agree with some of the others, it has to be used to suit the situation and the girl youre gaming.

I think C/F is a tool but definately not your whole tool box... Look at "Gambler" hes a very funny confident guy, but when he speaks he also can put across a persona of approachability or if he chooses a persona of "mysterious"...

For more fortunate looking guys its a much finer line between cocky and down right arrogant.... Remember girls love confidence and hate arrogance.
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