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Author:  Castle [ Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Thinking too much...trying to open a 9
Guys,

I've got a problem - well I think it's a good problem but either way I need to act and act fast. I recently had surgery on my shoulder and have been going to a place in town for physical therapy. I've been going there for a few months and have gotten to know the staff a little bit there. Anyways, they just hired a new intern who now works the front desk and woah...she is a 9 maybe even a 10. Just a knockout...she's got great style, is very bubbly, and is a natural beauty.

So we've exchanged pleasantries and sure enough she is very friendly and I asked her how she's liking the job ect...anyways today I go in there and one of the other staffers there (an older woman who I get along with well) asks me in front of the new hottie if I have a girlfriend. I was taken aback by the question and couldn't think of anything too clever to say - I mustered a quick "nope...no gf." Then I looked back to the HB and she seemed to be almost embarassed by the question. I didn't press the situation and just scheduled my next appointment (next Tuesday) and left. I know I know I should've milked the situation and worked some game...nevertheless...

So I'm trying to decipher what happened. I'm thinking that maybe my older friend had been talking about me to the new girl - but that might not be it at all. Either way I need to make a move, right? Trouble is I don't want to be too overt about hitting on her/asking her out at work in front of her co-workers. At the same time, I think I've gotten enough hints through her friendliness coupled with the gf question from the other woman in front of the hottie to push it a little further.

So what's my next move? My game is steadily progressing - I'm not a natural by any means - but when it comes to scenarios where I end up plotting and thinking I tend to psyche myself out. Like I said I go in there early next week. Any advice on how to proceed from here?

-Castle
Author:  Mister Boss [ Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:41 pm ]
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Hey man,

I'm sorry to interrupt you from your little day dream, but I can't sense any progress here. She's a front desk worker who has to greet, be friendly and laughing to tons of people everyday. So yeah, I don't see any attraction from her side. Again, that's what I can pickup from your story.

You have to make a move next time. Women are conservative creatures. They RARELY take the initiative.

I suggest you give her a sincere little compliment the next time you see her. Nothing more. You're just there to speak your mind, brighten up her day and don't want anything back from her. See how this works out. If you feel it's clicking you can go for her number, casually. Your gut will tell you.

Good luck buddy
Author:  sinsitive [ Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:13 pm ]
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Im with mister boss here. But eventhough she has to be friendly, watch out for other IOI's... Just calibirate how far you can go, and perhaps get to meet her in a more natrual location. What mystery does rocks: tell her you're smoking a hookah and you want her to come over and help with it. I like that one.
Author:  Castle [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:18 am ]
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Guys-

Thanks for the input. Okay so just a quick update. I've been over there one time since I last posted this and tried to up comfort between us. It seems like there might be enough of a rapport to get a date.

So I wanna know. What's the best approach to asking her out? Should I casually say "Hey do you wanna grab a drink sometime?" Or do I not even phrase it as a question? I'm curious to get your guys' thoughts on this. I think I've done enough to not make it seem like it's not coming out of left field.

I figure I'll go in there again and get the convo rolling nice and easy and then just off-handedly mention going out for drinks or sushi or something like that. I know this seems like I'm analyzing this way too much (and I am) but I'm not that experienced when it comes to asking a girl out in this sort of situation (i.e. at her work...other people around). So if you have good go-to routines that assure you of getting a number and a meet let me know. I could use the help!
Author:  Mister Boss [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:58 pm ]
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Quote:
Guys-

Thanks for the input. Okay so just a quick update. I've been over there one time since I last posted this and tried to up comfort between us. It seems like there might be enough of a rapport to get a date.

So I wanna know. What's the best approach to asking her out? Should I casually say "Hey do you wanna grab a drink sometime?" Or do I not even phrase it as a question? I'm curious to get your guys' thoughts on this. I think I've done enough to not make it seem like it's not coming out of left field.

I figure I'll go in there again and get the convo rolling nice and easy and then just off-handedly mention going out for drinks or sushi or something like that. I know this seems like I'm analyzing this way too much (and I am) but I'm not that experienced when it comes to asking a girl out in this sort of situation (i.e. at her work...other people around). So if you have good go-to routines that assure you of getting a number and a meet let me know. I could use the help!
Yes, if there's enough attraction, you can do some small talk and go for the number.

Like you said, do some small talk and at the end leave with her number. A nice routine that I use is:

"I got to get going. You know what..."
*grab your phone and hand it over
"Give me your number so we can grab a cup of coffee sometime"

Good luck,

Promise me that you will take action the next time you see her. :wink:
Author:  Castle [ Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:50 am ]
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Boss-

Thanks for the tip man...I promise I'll go for it next time I see her. So one question I have is what are your thoughts on asking a girl out? Like...literally ASKING her. Just from reading the forums and discussing with other guys, it sounds like you should never ask but instead suggest getting a number or setting up a date. it's sort of like saying "excuse me" right? As in, never apologize or excuse yourself for anything. I see that your number close routine with the phone removes any chance of her flatly saying no or the "I have a bf" line. In a sense it'd be awkward of her to not punch in her number. Is that what I'm hearing?

I've heard girls candidly tell me in the past that they like a gentleman who is nice and polite and will ask for a date or a meet or what have you. But it seems like asking implies a need for validation or a reluctance to take charge of the moment. What do you think?
Author:  LaVitaèBreve [ Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:01 am ]
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Go with something similar to what Mister Boss said.

I personally, don't ask for a date. To some degree that whole idea is dead or at least dying. Be direct, assertive, confident. She should see that you don't give a damn whether she accepts or not.

Get the number close, "MAYBE we can grab some coffee or a drink sometime, have nice day"

END.

In the future to help get over this AA, try going to a busy place and complimenting every single HB there. AA goes away little by little with practice. Make it happen and the Game will go so much easier.


*EDIT*
By the way: Attractive greeting women, bartenders, waitresses in clubs are generally very attractive.They're called HIRED GUNS my friend. They're in whatever position they're in because they attract male customers. Hired Guns are dangerous for AFCs. An AFC will buy drinks all night, because "that hot bartender is totally diggin him." He'll tip the Hooters waitress 20% because she seemed really interested in him, "Dude did you see that?! She was totally rubbing my back AND she called me hon!Those Double Ds, didn't just accidentaly graze my arm, she wants me!"

See those Hired Guns for exactly what they are: Man Bait. Call em out in a CnF way if you're feeling ballsy haha
Author:  nermob [ Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:05 am ]
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let us know what happens!
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