PUA Forum :: Using outrageous openers

You have to watch the environment you're in as not to get banned from venues or arrested (this has happened to some ppl on the forum for doing this). I would recommend partial anonymity, like a hat and dark sunglasses, and do this in an area where you can easily eject and go somewhere else without anyone finding you. Otherwise you could use your intuition when its a super relaxed indoor environment like a coffee shop or grocery store, but still would want to be close to an exit you u can flee if she has any complaints.

Because the example you gave is graphic and offensive to a lot of women, we can think of some more benign but highly sexual coments/openers. They can be highly effective if used in the right way, with a congruent vibe and body language.

We want women to make the "OMG!!!" face, jaw dropped all the way, cover their face, laugh hysterically and blush when they hear such things:

I'll start:

"Nice outfit, it would look great lying in a heap on your bed." or substitute <i>my bed</i>.

Those pants looks like they're about to fall right off.

Hi I'm taking a survey, is it ok for girls to have sex on the first date?

I wouldnt do that if I were you.. You look like an insecure guy and Im not sure that that is really what you want to say.

Maybe youre horny as fuck, but you got a lot of stuff to learn. I can see that you are missing some basic fundementals about human interactions.

I dont think that is funny, I think it is pretty much sick. And if a person would go on and talk about hey hi how ur doing do you think if two men are fuckin the same chick and their balls touch one another that that is gay??? I would probably punch him in the face. Not kidding.

Cmon man.. do some inner work.. do some approaches and use your nutty opener if you want. Just post so we can at least have a laugh

Inner game guru "god" so to speak is in my opinion david deangelo.

Get his e-book, double your dating. There you will be introduced to the fundementals of the dating life.

After that, move on to his advanced series DVD. There you will learn how women think, what are the economics of sex, you will reframe some of your beliefs and you will get to know of what an opener should look like and what should you communicate when opening. A ton of guest speakers, even doctors and professionals.

Than, I would reccomend you get swingcatt inner game programs. There you will be directed with what frame you should keep when opening, some beliefs to hold in your mind and internalize them, push pull techniques etc.

When youre done, go back to david deangelo and get his on being a man program. That is the ultimate inner game program in my opinion.

But use it in this order. Stick with the lessons in e-book for at least 30 days. And study nothing but that book. Than move on to advanced series and study only advanced series for at least 30 days. Stick with advanced series for 90 days but you can combine them with swingcatt material. But make sure you internalize everything they talk about.

Than move on to "on being a man" and stick with only that program for 90 days.

Dont chew too much in one byte because you will spit everything out. Or you will vommit. So piece by piece. You got plenty of time. Dont worry.

So go and get his e-book, read it, and than make sure you post what you found.

[quote="SirBishopthose sound pretty good. how often do you use them? what type of responses do you get?

Author:	SirBishop [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:54 am ]
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What your guys thoughts on using some borderline outrageous openers. For example mine was gonna be "Do you think if two guys are having sex with one girl at the same time and their nut sacks touch it's gay?" My friend was telling me how surprised I'd be with the responses when saying shit like that. And if she gets offended just move on. No sweat. Shouldn't I be wanting to be with a girl who has the same sense of humor as me anyways? If you have an experience with openers like this please share?

Author:	xibuz [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:15 am ]
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You have to watch the environment you're in as not to get banned from venues or arrested (this has happened to some ppl on the forum for doing this). I would recommend partial anonymity, like a hat and dark sunglasses, and do this in an area where you can easily eject and go somewhere else without anyone finding you. Otherwise you could use your intuition when its a super relaxed indoor environment like a coffee shop or grocery store, but still would want to be close to an exit you u can flee if she has any complaints. Because the example you gave is graphic and offensive to a lot of women, we can think of some more benign but highly sexual coments/openers. They can be highly effective if used in the right way, with a congruent vibe and body language. We want women to make the "OMG!!!" face, jaw dropped all the way, cover their face, laugh hysterically and blush when they hear such things: I'll start: "Nice outfit, it would look great lying in a heap on your bed." or substitute <i>my bed</i>. Those pants looks like they're about to fall right off. Hi I'm taking a survey, is it ok for girls to have sex on the first date?

Author:	Abdul-aAfc [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:45 pm ]
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Well talking about sex in the first instance wont really be a move i wou;d recommend. Depending on the laws in your area you could wind yourself in trouble

Author:	SirBishop [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:06 pm ]
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Quote: You have to watch the environment you're in as not to get banned from venues or arrested (this has happened to some ppl on the forum for doing this). I would recommend partial anonymity, like a hat and dark sunglasses, and do this in an area where you can easily eject and go somewhere else without anyone finding you. Otherwise you could use your intuition when its a super relaxed indoor environment like a coffee shop or grocery store, but still would want to be close to an exit you u can flee if she has any complaints. Because the example you gave is graphic and offensive to a lot of women, we can think of some more benign but highly sexual coments/openers. They can be highly effective if used in the right way, with a congruent vibe and body language. We want women to make the "OMG!!!" face, jaw dropped all the way, cover their face, laugh hysterically and blush when they hear such things: I'll start: "Nice outfit, it would look great lying in a heap on your bed." or substitute <i>my bed</i>. Those pants looks like they're about to fall right off. Hi I'm taking a survey, is it ok for girls to have sex on the first date? Damn arrested? wow. those sound pretty good. how often do you use them? what type of responses do you get?

Author:	Black Phantom [ Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:01 pm ]
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I wouldnt do that if I were you.. You look like an insecure guy and Im not sure that that is really what you want to say. Maybe youre horny as fuck, but you got a lot of stuff to learn. I can see that you are missing some basic fundementals about human interactions. I dont think that is funny, I think it is pretty much sick. And if a person would go on and talk about hey hi how ur doing do you think if two men are fuckin the same chick and their balls touch one another that that is gay??? I would probably punch him in the face. Not kidding. Cmon man.. do some inner work.. do some approaches and use your nutty opener if you want. Just post so we can at least have a laugh

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Author:	SirBishop [ Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:32 pm ]
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Quote: I wouldnt do that if I were you.. You look like an insecure guy and Im not sure that that is really what you want to say. Maybe youre horny as fuck, but you got a lot of stuff to learn. I can see that you are missing some basic fundementals about human interactions. I dont think that is funny, I think it is pretty much sick. And if a person would go on and talk about hey hi how ur doing do you think if two men are fuckin the same chick and their balls touch one another that that is gay??? I would probably punch him in the face. Not kidding. Cmon man.. do some inner work.. do some approaches and use your nutty opener if you want. Just post so we can at least have a laugh I just wanted an opinion on it. I def agree I have A LOT to learn. Can you link/point me in the right direction to some recommended inner game/basic fundamental reading/videos?

Author:	Black Phantom [ Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:52 pm ]
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Inner game guru "god" so to speak is in my opinion david deangelo. Get his e-book, double your dating. There you will be introduced to the fundementals of the dating life. After that, move on to his advanced series DVD. There you will learn how women think, what are the economics of sex, you will reframe some of your beliefs and you will get to know of what an opener should look like and what should you communicate when opening. A ton of guest speakers, even doctors and professionals. Than, I would reccomend you get swingcatt inner game programs. There you will be directed with what frame you should keep when opening, some beliefs to hold in your mind and internalize them, push pull techniques etc. When youre done, go back to david deangelo and get his on being a man program. That is the ultimate inner game program in my opinion. But use it in this order. Stick with the lessons in e-book for at least 30 days. And study nothing but that book. Than move on to advanced series and study only advanced series for at least 30 days. Stick with advanced series for 90 days but you can combine them with swingcatt material. But make sure you internalize everything they talk about. Than move on to "on being a man" and stick with only that program for 90 days. Dont chew too much in one byte because you will spit everything out. Or you will vommit. So piece by piece. You got plenty of time. Dont worry. So go and get his e-book, read it, and than make sure you post what you found.

Author:	SirBishop [ Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:55 pm ]
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Quote: Inner game guru "god" so to speak is in my opinion david deangelo. Get his e-book, double your dating. There you will be introduced to the fundementals of the dating life. After that, move on to his advanced series DVD. There you will learn how women think, what are the economics of sex, you will reframe some of your beliefs and you will get to know of what an opener should look like and what should you communicate when opening. A ton of guest speakers, even doctors and professionals. Than, I would reccomend you get swingcatt inner game programs. There you will be directed with what frame you should keep when opening, some beliefs to hold in your mind and internalize them, push pull techniques etc. When youre done, go back to david deangelo and get his on being a man program. That is the ultimate inner game program in my opinion. But use it in this order. Stick with the lessons in e-book for at least 30 days. And study nothing but that book. Than move on to advanced series and study only advanced series for at least 30 days. Stick with advanced series for 90 days but you can combine them with swingcatt material. But make sure you internalize everything they talk about. Than move on to "on being a man" and stick with only that program for 90 days. Dont chew too much in one byte because you will spit everything out. Or you will vommit. So piece by piece. You got plenty of time. Dont worry. So go and get his e-book, read it, and than make sure you post what you found. cool. thx man. So far I've only read Logan Edward's "Secrets of the A Game." doens't seem like it covers evverything though, so thx.

Author:	xibuz [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:26 am ]
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[quote="SirBishopthose sound pretty good. how often do you use them? what type of responses do you get?[/quote] I must admit that I'm not speaking from actual experience, but rather just speculating with creating attraction by being direct-bold-confident, and using feedback from others who have done such things. I definitely planned on, and still would use such openers if I ever find myself in an environment that feels conducive to direct bold statements. In the summer a lot of approaches were done, sometimes for a few hours at a time, but I still never got the chance to test these. This was talked about in another post earlier this year pua-vs-lapd-on-bold-approaches-vt45871.html?highlight= Although one key difference in your suggested opener "Do you think if two guys are having sex with one girl at the same time and their nut sacks touch it's gay?" and the ones I might use is that they're less likely to come off as rude and offensive. While I would go with something and thought provoking... Another one that would have been bomb ass, except it was featured in "The Pick Up Artist" "93% of girls masturbate in the shower, the other 7% sing. What do they sing?.... You must be the ones that masturbate." But stuff like this, u get the idea.

Author:	SirBishop [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:17 am ]
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Quote: [quote="SirBishopthose sound pretty good. how often do you use them? what type of responses do you get? I must admit that I'm not speaking from actual experience, but rather just speculating with creating attraction by being direct-bold-confident, and using feedback from others who have done such things. I definitely planned on, and still would use such openers if I ever find myself in an environment that feels conducive to direct bold statements. In the summer a lot of approaches were done, sometimes for a few hours at a time, but I still never got the chance to test these. This was talked about in another post earlier this year pua-vs-lapd-on-bold-approaches-vt45871.html?highlight= Although one key difference in your suggested opener "Do you think if two guys are having sex with one girl at the same time and their nut sacks touch it's gay?" and the ones I might use is that they're less likely to come off as rude and offensive. While I would go with something and thought provoking... Another one that would have been bomb ass, except it was featured in "The Pick Up Artist" "93% of girls masturbate in the shower, the other 7% sing. What do they sing?.... You must be the ones that masturbate." But stuff like this, u get the idea.[/quote] haha. sweet. yea mine (after externalizing it) doesn't sound as good as it did in my head at the time. my game (or lack of) is def in need of drastic measures. I'm looking to make as much progress in as short time as possible. My bro science theory was that if I could say some shit like that then I could easily talk about reg everyday convo type shit.

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