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| Author: | KoopaTroopa [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Please Help: Need to Develop Risky Strategy By Tonight |
I'm visiting my friend for some big event this weekend at his university. There's this HB9 friend of his I'm trying to get with, and I have this idea for getting her. I want to get her attracted to me by successfully sarging other girls while she watches jealously. The risk is, if she sees me get shut down, I'll look like a loser, and the past two days, I haven't been having much luck with cold approaches at these parties. So here's a brief summary of how I plan on opening (the details are what's important though): I leave my group with the HB9 in it and get a nearby set of two or more HBs to play a "game" with me. I tell them I have a crush on the HB9 I was talking about, and I want them to help me get her by "pretending" as if they are really into me. The whole time, I "teach" them the art of the pick-up and instruct them on how to play along. The purpose of this is twofold: I demonstrate to them that unlike most guys, I understand social dynamics, and by having them "pretend" to be attracted to me, they actually do become attracted to me. Once I get them so into me that they don't have to "pretend" anymore, I flip the script and return to my group, making THEM the jealous ones as I seduce the HB9, who should now be ripe for the picking. So ideally, I'll have both the original target and a new group competing for my affection. Like I said, the details of this are what's most important. The hard part will be selling it to them as something they would enjoy, so they won't blow me off right off the bat. The beauty of it is they don't have to worry about me hitting on them since I come under the pretense that I'm interested in a different girl. I'm going to think about what to say, and once I have a coherent strategy, I'll post it here. In the meantime, I'd like to hear your thoughts and tips. |
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| Author: | thebabe [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Risky.... |
You said it best when you said this was a risky play. You might be better off leaving out the fact that you want to make the HB9 jealous. You could still lead and open by explaining to them you understand social dynamics and you use this as a means of meeting people in general. If you mention that you are actually using it as a means to meet women you might do yourself more harm than good. As far as the set you are trying to go with though, you might do well to use something simple like a handwriting analysis trick on their drivers license signature. If its a 2 set, you could use it on each of them because they will affirm what you say about the other, and if you sell it well its not going to matter if you are even on point. Sometimes I completely disregard what I know about handwriting analysis and just tell them what I know they want to hear. This is a perfect lead in to what Style calls the "best friends test". If you know that one and can work it into the conversation it might be a solid way to get their trust and let them know you're not just some guy trying to pick them up. At this point, mention that you did handwriting analysis (or whatever material you had used) and ask them if they have anything interesting to show you. They will say no. NEG. "Wow, neither of you have anything interesting to show me. I'm going back to talk to my friends, come find me in ten minutes when you've come up with something." This is when you go back to the HB9 knowing the two will come back to talk to you, because you told them to. Now, you don't need to have a long conversation with the HB9, just run an opener (I like to ask them how long my friend should wait before he gets back into a relationship because he just got broken up with and I am afraid he will jump into one too soon). Its open ended and will give her something to talk about. While she is talking, the girls should come back with something to show you. You can politely eject from the convo with the HB9 making her jealous and you should be able to finish talking to the 2 set. You Negged the HB9 by leaving, so when you return you can say something like, "I came all the way back over here just to show you something." Now you can run something on her (not the same material) and she should be receptive. You've already opened and negged. Maybe ask her to come sit with you and run the ESP trick. If I had to play it, that is how I would feel I needed to do it. These are just ideas though man, and I wish you the best on however you approach it. |
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| Author: | Brandonjg [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:58 pm ] |
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Are you sure this chick likes you? How do you know she would get jeleous? Your plan could go wrong in many ways...so you should have multiple back up plans and play out the scenariors so you are prepared for as much as possible. |
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| Author: | mx6import [ Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:38 pm ] |
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Have you tried to get with the HB before? If not why not just sarge her in the beginning, be the alpha male and the life of the party/group, and then go from there. After she is interested in you and you DHV then start to interact with people outside of the group to show social dynamics. After a little of not speaking or paying any attention to her. Bring her into a group that you met (this is why you don't mention the jealous part) and get her to interact with those people. If they are from the same school you can neg the HB by saying she is nonsocial/ a hobbit/ geek/ what ever. After a little of that change venues with the HB, isolate, and close. That is how I have sarged situations such as the one you described. Going into the party (even a crazy one) and being the loudest, most fun guy while ignoring the HB works GREAT. Good luck dude. Lets see a field report. |
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| Author: | Romeo7 [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:58 am ] |
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One thing "You watch too many movies, this is reality, not a movie" I have an idea, instead of "trying" to make her jealous why don't you make her attracted? Dude... Jealousy DOES NOT equal attraction, nor creates it Jealousy INCREASES attraction I tell you this... Sarge the guys and other people in the group, be the center of the attention and ignore her bad, ignore her as if she doesnt exist Or better yet, bring some girls with you, doesn't matter if they are average looking, just bring them |
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