Awesome opener man
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| Author: | They Call Me Smooth [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | KINO/Opener from a RAFC |
I'm new to PUA but I know when something is working or not. I've used this as an opener 3 times now both solo and with a wing but it could also be used in mid game to escalate KINO. [Opener with a wing] Walk over to a target and say "Can you help me prove something to my friend?" and offer out your hand. If she puts her hand out grab her hand and turn it knuckles up and say to your wing "See I told you" then to her "Thanks" and uses a false takeaway (start walking away). If she stops you and wants to know what it is, offer out your hand again and take hers. Then show her that a woman's pointer finger is longer then her ring finger and the opposite on a man. [Opener solo] Walk over to a target and say "Can I see your hand for a second? Friend of mine just told me something and I want to see if it is true." and offer out your hand. If she puts her hand out grab her hand and turn it knuckles up and say to her "Thanks" and uses a false takeaway (start walking away). If she stops you and wants to know what it is, offer out your hand again and take hers. Then show her that a woman's pointer finger is longer then her ring finger and the opposite on a man. I doubt I need to explain this as a way to escalate KINO. Seems pretty self explanatory. As I said I used this 3 times already and has worked well for me. Just don't creep her out and continue to try and hold her hand (except maybe in KINO). By the way if you find a woman who has a longer ring finger then her pointer finger, RUN. |
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| Author: | Charlie0 [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:29 pm ] |
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That's awesome dude! Simple, easy to use, and affordable. You'd be crazy not to try!!! |
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| Author: | mindshift [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:37 pm ] |
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woow dude i always knew about that fact, but i never thought bout using it in an opener.. i might have to try using some other random facts like that, like i heard once a woman can touch her shoulder flat with her hand but guys can only get there fingertips touching ( u have to have elbows completely out not at an angle) |
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| Author: | They Call Me Smooth [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:04 pm ] |
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Yeah it's pretty simple opener. The nice thing about it is it's flexible. The down side is you hope the target bites and stops you from walking away. |
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| Author: | Untouchable3 [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:14 pm ] |
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Awesome opener man
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| Author: | Phobia [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:45 pm ] |
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Will def. try this one out ! GO  EDIT: Just checked my fingers... seems like I have female hands LOL  My pointer finger is longer than my ring finger... Also another chick I know has the exact opposite so she has got men hands...I believe this is a good thing. If you encounter a girl that doesn't apply to the rule above you can go on about that you guys are special.. not mainstream or whatsoever  A good conversation starter I believe Or if you apply to the rule and the HB doesn't, you can ask: And what makes you so special except your menly hands ^^. |
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| Author: | zhukaching [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:02 am ] |
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nice one man, a sweet little routine=] |
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| Author: | Endorphine [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:16 pm ] |
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That's a fantastic opener/kino combo I'll definitely try it out.
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| Author: | regulus [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:52 pm ] |
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i will try it tomorrow night...thanks! |
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| Author: | -Achilles [ Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:45 pm ] |
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I also knew the finger lenght routine, and never thought on applying it to an opener. but, what if the girl, after my takeaway doesn't say anything and stare at her friends with a "wtf?" expression as I walk away? because I see a great possibility for that to happen.. |
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| Author: | [Vegas] [ Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:38 am ] |
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I want to try this out, but what happens if you false-takeaway and she doesn't stop you? I'm sure I can think of something to do impromptu based on my environment, but it's getting late for me and nothing comes to mind right now haha. |
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| Author: | Untouchable3 [ Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:29 pm ] |
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I tried this opener twice at the mall today. The first time they didnt stop me. When I said thanks they were just like: glad to help (smiling). The second time they stopped me and it went pretty good (n-close). After the opener I freezed for a little bit, because its not a classic opinion opener, but it all went great. |
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| Author: | jawni [ Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:26 pm ] |
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I've also heard that most gay men have the longer pointer finger which is an odd paralell |
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| Author: | tobystar [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:33 am ] |
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im actually kinda curious of what ppl would do in the situation where she doesn't bite on the take-away... brainstorm some ideas maybe with a wing u can turn and walk away with him saying something like "see not all woman have wierd hands" loud enough for her to hear then stop u for an explaination i dunno if thats plausable just throwing it out there. |
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| Author: | Vinci [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:36 am ] |
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lol absolutely perfect opener. I tried it so many times, it never failed me. but I don't do the false take away though, cause I feel like thats just anxiety thing. I just tell her exactly about the hand anatomy as i'm holding her hand. You can also neg her if: 1. she doesnt have her nails done. ( are these real... oh there nice anyways.) 2. manly hands. ( oh wow...you have manly hands...) 3. soft hands ( wow, you must be a lazy girl...) |
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