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Situational Openers - THEY DO HAVE A PURPOSE!!
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Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:03 am ]
Post subject:  Situational Openers - THEY DO HAVE A PURPOSE!!
Many people in the seduction community seem to be afraid of situational openers. They are deemed as being the most weak form of openers and many people act as if they have no real use. This is not true!! They only have no use in SOME situations.

I would not advise using situational openers in Clubs/bars unless it is TRULY something that just happens to naturally come up.
Situational works best during day game (which is something some of you guys need to start working on! Game is not just reserved for the clubs). Anyway, situational works best during the day, when you are not going direct. Indirect works best in clubs/bars and can sound kinda fake when u go up to a girl at a mall and say "Hey, who do u think lies more, men or women?" This is why, if you are not gonna go direct during the day, then you should go indirect by using a Situational Opener.

Your situational opener can be something true to the situation or can be a canned situational opener. A CANNED SITUATIONAL OPENER?? isnt that contradictory?? No, its not. Some canned situational openers I use are "Do you smell that?" or if they are a moving target coming a certain direction, I'll point the direction they came from and say "hey, is that guy still over there?" They'll be like "What guy?" and then you go into some made up story about some guy acting really weird in the middle of the mall or yelling at his girlfriend while she was crying or whatever you think will interest them. Make sure to act like you're about to walk away by body rocking (I think saying "I gotta get back to my friends in a minute" in a mall sounds fake). If you don't bodyrock during a situational opener like that, they'll be thinking 'why does this guy care so much about telling us about some guy breaking up with his girlfriend?'

If the set still hasn't hooked yet, you can go into an opinion opener "Oh, by the way, what do u think blah blah blah.." The opinion opener will sound alot more natural during the day once u already opened situationally.


O and another thing. From field experience i found out that saying "is that guy still over there?" works alot better than saying "Hey, did u see that guy over there?" I came up with reasons why, but its not even worth going into. What works even better and stops moving targets more often is if im in the hall of a mall and a girl just comes out of a particular store, Ill be like, "is that guy still in Abercrombie?" They will at least slow down to listen to for a sec, if not completely stop. When i tried stopping these moving targets during the day with opinion openers, they rarely ever stopped or even slowed down.

Alright enough ranting....Good Luck
Author:  Vesh [ Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:02 am ]
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Thats some good advice i mostyl only get to practice day game and the spontanteous openers didn't seem to work for me that situational openers are kinda of direct but still work, to me i like this becuse i have a mission tomorrow to use 4 openers this will give me some ideas thanks dude keep it up
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:16 am ]
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yea man, good luck with ur 4 openers. Make sure to post how they went. If u or anybody else does decide to use the "Hey is that guy still over there?" situational opener, just be sure to smirk when u say it, so it doesnt seem like there u were weirded out by the guy, u just thought it was kinda funny or interesting.
Author:  Jav [ Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:45 pm ]
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Yep.

opinion openeres on moving sets=no no


You can rather blurt out some total nonsense and then say "hihi, i made you stop walking"


Openers only exist to make the target talk
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