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| Author: | grant101 [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Time Constraint |
I understand the necessity/concept of a time constraint, but i often find that when I deliver it during an approach, it sounds like Im wussying out to the girl or that it conveys to her that I am uncomfortable. This is always my first impression when I deliver a time constraint, and although the feeling may be mitigated by smooth talking, I always feel less ALPHA when delivering the time constraint. I often throw in the time constraint quickly (1-2mins during the set) because I have seen others doing it. Maybe its best used as a way of ending the set? Is it just me or is there more to delivering a time constraint that I am not aware of? |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Time Constraint |
Quote: I understand the necessity/concept of a time constraint, but i often find that when I deliver it during an approach, it sounds like Im wussying out to the girl or that it conveys to her that I am uncomfortable.
The idea of the False Time Constraint is that they don't have the thought running through their head of "When is this guy leaving?" They don't have that thought because you told them already. This is always my first impression when I deliver a time constraint, and although the feeling may be mitigated by smooth talking, I always feel less ALPHA when delivering the time constraint. I often throw in the time constraint quickly (1-2mins during the set) because I have seen others doing it. Maybe its best used as a way of ending the set? Is it just me or is there more to delivering a time constraint that I am not aware of? The other thing behind the False Time Constraint is that you are on your way to hang with your friends or whatever and you were passing by. You asked them a question, but then as you're leaving all of a sudden something about the group caused you to stay with them. Then you stay. It's suppose to look more natural. I think a verbal False Time Constraint is important to use, however, a non-verbal works equally as well. A non-verbal would be something like body rocking out as you run your opener. You are asking them but you keep your body pointed away and even rock your weight to your foot like you're about to walk away. Then like I said something catches your "High social value attention" and then you stay. Combining the two of these is the most effective way to do it. You're just a high value guy on your way to getting back to your friends and then you decided to talk to them. So....."Let me get your opinion on something. I have to get back to my friends here in a bit, but....INSERT OPENER." Hope it helps |
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| Author: | Psych_ [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:50 pm ] |
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If you're first generating social proof you don't need a FTC since the initial interaction is short and quick, you actually do leave to preserve comfort levels with the intent to reopen the set later. Once you have SP and preselection a FTC is not even needed, especially if you've already gone in and left before. If you do just open with the solid game mentality, basically you either get blown out or get a success, then FTC's are very useful. It's not about excusing yourself though, more about preserving her comfort and can actually raise your value by showing you're not needy and have other things to get back to. A simple "I only have a second" or even "real quick" is fine. Also keep in mind FTC's are useful in other areas of the PU (such as going for an isolation as just one example), not just the opener. Hope this helps Psych |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:46 pm ] |
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Quote: If you're first generating social proof you don't need a FTC since the initial interaction is short and quick, you actually do leave to preserve comfort levels with the intent to reopen the set later. Once you have SP and preselection a FTC is not even needed, especially if you've already gone in and left before.
Good explanation Psych...you are right in the fact it's all about just preserving comfort levels.
If you do just open with the solid game mentality, basically you either get blown out or get a success, then FTC's are very useful. It's not about excusing yourself though, more about preserving her comfort and can actually raise your value by showing you're not needy and have other things to get back to. A simple "I only have a second" or even "real quick" is fine. Also keep in mind FTC's are useful in other areas of the PU (such as going for an isolation as just one example), not just the opener. Hope this helps Psych |
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