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| Author: | MrBravado [ Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Simple Opener |
Now I am new to the PUA community and though I have been reading quite a bit on these forums, I really don't want to have to sift through everything just to make sure I am not repeating someones suggestions. I just wanted to share an experience and let everyone know it was successful. And best of all it was simple. I've tried three times since and it has worked 100 percent of the time. I guess simplicity has its advantages. Okay, so you and your wingman(men) and/or pivot(s) are having a conversation as you walk into the bar/club, whatever. There's no need to be cheesy, talk about anything. The trick is to do it with a sort of passion. As if there is possibly a strong agreement or disagreement. As you walk in make sure you are eminating this energy with each other and look for the first set you see. (If they actually look like they're having fun this works wonders, if they don't no worries.) Approach the set. YOU(or your wing) : Hey you guys (or girls for all female sets) look to be having the most fun, share the wealth! THEM: (If actually in a good mood) YEAH! blah, blah... (If not actually emmiting high energy, no matter, your positive behavior will leak over if you do it right) (and its an indirect compliment to the whole group) By showing up in high spirits and introducing a positive energy to the group you've established yourselves as fun people. Now if it is a set of females and you face the BS you can always turn it around and say something like: HER: You're wasting your time. (I actually had this said to me at Nick's in PB California by an HB 8.5) ME: I didn't know you thought of yourself as a waste of time. (C&F) She was unsure how to respond. Looked at me for about two seconds. HER: I didn't say that! ME: But you just said I was wasting my time. Since I am trying to talk to you, of all other girls I could have approached, and you think I am wasting MY time then you must be the cause. Have a good night. I walked away. 10 minutes later she joined me for a game of pool, chatted for the duration of the game (she was quite competitive, but I didn't let her win and for some reason this drove her crazy, but in a good way) then number closed her 10 minutes later. Point being: High energy always wins. Never over do it. You don't want to come off as creepy, but the standard rule of match it or just barely surpass it, typically works for me. Positive attitudes win championships and defense was meant to be broken. Happy sarging! Feel free to post ORIGINAL OPENER IDEAS HERE. As original as possible. I really don't want to hear the old openers that don't work very well anymore i.e. "Hey can I get your opinion" blah blah... that really only works somewhat if your running daygame in an environment where you can actually utilize props, i.e. cologne, candles, etc. Thanks!!! You guys rock. [/i] |
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| Author: | MattJacks [ Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:45 pm ] |
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Sorry but I'm not posting my originals here as that would then mean they are unorignal.. now. Even so I go for situational a whole bunch. I think reading/using openers that other people write isnt so good anyway. An opener is one that a person has thought of for themselves. If you created an opener you would tailor it to yourself. For example when I think about anything thats random and interesting I note it on my phone and later (on the train mostly) I rejig it so it would work for me. So whenver you have a strange or even just an interesting conversation with a stranger/coworker/client take a mental note, then later think about how you could use it as an opener. Openers just open, they dont hold conversation for long.. O yeah, btw you double posted the thread |
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| Author: | MrBravado [ Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Good Point |
You make a valid point, but in some cases, sharing openers doesn't necesarily mean it will be used ver batem. For instance, I told a story on a nother thread about this elven set I opened in Pacific Beach at PB Bar & Grill. In that situation I admit I hadn't been in the game for very long, but I used Mystery's line from his White Party situation, but tailored it to my environment. So sure it wasn't totally original, but until this becomes second nature it's nice to get some ideas and mold them to my situation until I can open on my own ideas in the blink of an eye. I do appreciate your advice on taking notes though. I have a notebook and so does the guy who got me into PUA. We take notes about convos and openers, we even sit down and go over our mistakes and how to avoid the same situations next time. Look I'm not trying to mooch, I just like being able to take ideas into consideration when applying them to my situation. I'm not the type of person who likes the scripted. It makes my skin crawl. The idea behind the line though is what I pick apart and take notes on. |
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