PUA Forum :: Eye Contact Opener

hey playboyforlife, i think your name says it all...

i like your style anyway... and its important for beginners as well: if a girl looks at you, its an AI (approach invitiation). she is actually already attracted to you, so A2 is done. it would be ridiculous to try to attract her even more and being try-hard, because that will show you are not confident enough. A confident man will just go in for the kill straight away and girls like that. of course... after qualifying her first, because she might just be an illusion.... (girls like a challenge)

i get a lot of eye contact / AI as well... i'm gonna use your hug thing as well to have some variation.

i have the same issues as you. i have one rountine which is not that direct that works for me (got this from the forum some time ago):

she: * smiles at you / looks at you *
me: Do i know you? / Who are you?
she: No / Why?
me: Well… I thought you knew me because you were staring/smiling at me in that way...
she: No i didn’t!
me: So… you are just a stalker...
she: Haha… You'd wish!
me: Well… you know what… that's OK, i forgive you...
she: No-No-No...
me: You are kind of cute...
she: Haha… yes I am...
me: And I don't mind having a cute stalker....
she: I know
me: It's only the ugly ones that are really stalkers...
she: Yes… of course…
me: Cute ones we just call admirers!
she: Haha
me: Hey miss admirer... I actually have to go now *false time constraint*… but you just made me remember a funny story...
she: What?
then do the usual: insert story, talk some more, insert games/gimmicks/routines, we are having such a great conversation but i/you have to go, how can we continue this? number close.... TADA!

Author:	Playboyforlife [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:09 am ]
Post subject:	Eye Contact Opener
I figured this opener out when I was dazing off When you are holding an eye contact with a girl for more then 3 seconds, approach her and ask her. You:Want a hug? (For me, she blushed, but if she goes like "no" or actually said something that means no, say something like "well it looked like you never got a hug before and you really needed one") You:Why were you looking at me like that? HB: (whatever she says) (Neg Her) You: So anyways... (A3-Use your own bait if you want)... Name 3 things out of the top of your mind, why I would like to know you. This opener gives you a jump start with her, because cmon! you are already in A3 and I think this is pretty original, there is no way she would forget about it... I should daze off into day dream more... Comments are welcomed to help me improve the routine

Author:	Playboyforlife [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:13 am ]
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If you need some negs go here ultimate-negs-collection-vt9080.html If you don't know what A3 is, its a part of the "mystery method" Its sorta hard for me to explain but I recommand some you to go get some of his videos.

Author:	Solomon II [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:49 am ]
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What you just 'figured out' is a form of direct game. You have me confused though... the fact that you don't know how to explain A3 makes me wonder how long you've actually been doing this stuff. Don't get me wrong, the opener is fine and it'll work great as long as you have relatively strong frame - the only thing I really wanna say about it is, its heavy reliance on IOIs to work makes it one of those ones which you can only use when opportunity knocks rather than something you can cold approach with. One other thing. I used MM almost exclusively in my early days; A3 is male-to-female interest and it's very easy to explain - I can't help but ponder over why you're telling people to go research MM after detailing an opener which skips stages that are crucial to the method. The first thing they're gonna read is that they should never ever show any kind of interest before she has done something to deserve it (the whole point of A1 and A2), and this is gonna get some guys confused. You really don't wanna get the newbies confused, so just to make it clear to those guys, what you're trying to say is that strong eye contact as an IOI = A2 and this makes it fine to SOI.

Author:	Playboyforlife [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:20 am ]
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Thanks Daziel I am a super confident guy with super strong frame, even if the chick bs me I would take it as she is playing cute and first try to make friends with her friends first. (Lance Mason stuff) Most of you might have learned that "you are not supposed to show interest to girls at first" that is true to a point, but sometimes I would just try to see how crazy I can be and how far I can get away with. The thing above might not be too good to use if you still have any slight insecurities in you, when you do this, don't show any fear, be fun, playful and give her that seductive look in your eyes (sorta narrowing it by 1/3 and charge it with your sexual energy) Sometimes I still feel AA but when a girl shows you indicators of interest(IOI), just go for it men! don't hesitate! Using the stuff above, I sorta can get pass my AA, the opinion openers doesn't work as well for me then the "fuck it and just go for it" method

Author:	SKY007 [ Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:02 pm ]
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hey playboyforlife, i think your name says it all... i like your style anyway... and its important for beginners as well: if a girl looks at you, its an AI (approach invitiation). she is actually already attracted to you, so A2 is done. it would be ridiculous to try to attract her even more and being try-hard, because that will show you are not confident enough. A confident man will just go in for the kill straight away and girls like that. of course... after qualifying her first, because she might just be an illusion.... (girls like a challenge) i get a lot of eye contact / AI as well... i'm gonna use your hug thing as well to have some variation. i have the same issues as you. i have one rountine which is not that direct that works for me (got this from the forum some time ago): she: * smiles at you / looks at you * me: Do i know you? / Who are you? she: No / Why? me: Well… I thought you knew me because you were staring/smiling at me in that way... she: No i didn’t! me: So… you are just a stalker... she: Haha… You'd wish! me: Well… you know what… that's OK, i forgive you... she: No-No-No... me: You are kind of cute... she: Haha… yes I am... me: And I don't mind having a cute stalker.... she: I know me: It's only the ugly ones that are really stalkers... she: Yes… of course… me: Cute ones we just call admirers! she: Haha me: Hey miss admirer... I actually have to go now false time constraint… but you just made me remember a funny story... she: What? then do the usual: insert story, talk some more, insert games/gimmicks/routines, we are having such a great conversation but i/you have to go, how can we continue this? number close.... TADA!

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Author:	taggy [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:11 am ]
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nce opener gotta try it out

Author:	rximmortal [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:	NICE
WOW this is exactly what i was looking for. Because i wasn't 100% sure in my skills untill now. I talk about the part with the eye contact. Now when i see some high ranked girl( hb 8-10) i will know what exactly to do and in that wat my AA become very low . + I have perfect dhv story for a girl that stalking me 2 months ago . I can post it later now (FTC ) thanks again

Author:	Joe19 [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:17 pm ]
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Hey guys I can't find this anywhere in the search. Can someone post the A1-A3, and C1-C3 and S1-S3 phases. Attraction, comfort, and seduction. I see it like this: A1: Open and gain interest. A2: Get her attracted to you showing IOI's. A3: Qualify yourself and show that you are interested. Not really sure the exact steps for Comfort and Seduction.

Author:	mikef0rmayor [ Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:10 am ]
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I am honestly tired of newbs who think of routines all day and never sarge or field test them...with that being said, I have to give props to SKY007 because this was nicely done. I am so going to use this tomorrow while I'm sarging before I pick my girlfriend up from school=] Quote: hey playboyforlife, i think your name says it all... i like your style anyway... and its important for beginners as well: if a girl looks at you, its an AI (approach invitiation). she is actually already attracted to you, so A2 is done. it would be ridiculous to try to attract her even more and being try-hard, because that will show you are not confident enough. A confident man will just go in for the kill straight away and girls like that. of course... after qualifying her first, because she might just be an illusion.... (girls like a challenge) i get a lot of eye contact / AI as well... i'm gonna use your hug thing as well to have some variation. i have the same issues as you. i have one rountine which is not that direct that works for me (got this from the forum some time ago): she: * smiles at you / looks at you * me: Do i know you? / Who are you? she: No / Why? me: Well… I thought you knew me because you were staring/smiling at me in that way... she: No i didn’t! me: So… you are just a stalker... she: Haha… You'd wish! me: Well… you know what… that's OK, i forgive you... she: No-No-No... me: You are kind of cute... she: Haha… yes I am... me: And I don't mind having a cute stalker.... she: I know me: It's only the ugly ones that are really stalkers... she: Yes… of course… me: Cute ones we just call admirers! she: Haha me: Hey miss admirer... I actually have to go now false time constraint… but you just made me remember a funny story... she: What? then do the usual: insert story, talk some more, insert games/gimmicks/routines, we are having such a great conversation but i/you have to go, how can we continue this? number close.... TADA!

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