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Author:  Samo [ Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:52 am ]
Post subject:  Opening a moving target in the opposite direction
So, their is this girl that I see in the hall in my high school everyday. The problem is that she walks in the other direction. I have gotten a few IOI's from her in the few seconds we see each other and make eye contact. Her body language also changes completely from before she sees me to when she notices me from relaxed to nervous.

Is their anyway to start a conversation and get her phone number in only a minute or two?
Author:  SKY007 [ Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:59 pm ]
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you dont need to do any attraction routine, because you got IOI's already.
you basically just have to stop her and then be a challenge. you have to qualify her because you have to pretend that you have high standards: "you like her enough to give her a chance but she's not there yet". (because girls like a challenge and not an easy loser who slobbers all over her in the hallway).


just do this:

you have to stand at the best position to stop a moving target, or else, even with a great opener, she could walk past you if you stand on the side. she might do that out of social ackwardness that she has (maybe she's shy), not just because she doesnt like you... so, dont give her the chance to walk past you. make her STOP.

first position yourself directly in front of her when she's 3 meters / 10 feet away of you (or maybe even a bit more). i mean DIRECTLY in front of her line of walking. you block the line where she's walking.
look her straight in the eyes from that point on and show a sly smile...
optionally say STOP, gesture with both your hands that she must stop (dont make the gesture lke a police officer, but be cool and smile)

YOU: i always see you here...
HER: uhuh / yeah / whatever
YOU: who are you?
HER: I'm monica (*dont say your name, make her ask for it later* *but if she returns the question "who are you", just say your name and make her say hers*)
YOU: Well actually... I wasnt after your name yet, i just wanted to know who monica is?
HER: *acting difficult / doesnt know what to say*
YOU: so who is monica? if you would be famous for anything, what would it be?
HER: dont know...
YOU: i dont mean famous like celebrity or anything, but famous like what would your friends say you are famous for?
*neg her if she already talked about being a celebrity... tell her the above line in a neg-way *

* at this point you should actually do some cool routines like the cube or something fun, but you told me you will only have like 1-2 minutes, so we'll skip that and just go for the kill *

YOU: listen monica... i guess we enjoy talking with each other, but we both have to run... how can we continue this?
HER: uhmmm
YOU: here *give phone* punch in your number

try this on a few other girls out in the street first... so you'll grow some balls and you wont stumble on your words if you get nervous if this is your special "hall way girl crush" (dont know how young you are)
Author:  smmx3 [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:09 am ]
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haha special hallway girl crush what about a random stranger you never met and they are walking in the opposite direction how would you start then
Author:  SKY007 [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:04 am ]
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well its maybe not optimal to do the same on random strangers, but it would work as well if your act is good. (that's why he can practice it on random strangers).

even though you have never seen her, you could pretend you have seen her ;)

saying "who are you" will take you straight to qualifying her.

normally you would first have to attract her with great stories or gimmicks. but if you straight out qualify her (and you look high value / you have a good first impression), she'll assume that you assume that she's already attracted to you (because of your looks or your high status or whatever). this is the mindset that you plant inside her when you skip attraction. like telling the girl "i know you want me, you look ok, but i dont even know you, i need to know more, who are you?". you dont say it in those words, but thats how the girl should feel.
so you go in like a sniper BOOM

to make it more optimal for a random stranger:
you could also do some attraction after qualification, attraction doesnt neccessarily come before qualification, you can mix and mingle it.
attraction is just the glue for her to stick around while you game her.
if you feel that the girl is not really responsive to your "who are you"-questions and is likely to leave any minute, then you just say "i actually have to get back to my friends / go to some shop /whatever"...."BUT.... you just remind me of a really cool story... / i just learned something really cool..." and you start your attraction story or routine...
she'll love it and then she'll stay put... and you can go back to some qualification after you have "glued" her


for a random stanger, you would really have to yell "STOP". its even harder to stop somebody new than somebody you have seen before.
you could make a joke out of it if she stops: "wow it really works, you really stopped! you are crazy! you dont even know me!"
she: haha
"so who are you?"
...
you get it


if a girl blows you out (if your act was wrong and you want to do damage control), I know a way to attract/glue them back to me:
hey dont disrespect me... you wanna fight? *stand in boxing position* you & me outside now! *BIG SMILE*
no no no, but seriously....
I can handle you… But I don’t think you can handle me…
> I can / Whatever
Ok I actually have to return to my friends / go to XYZ shop before they close *false time constraint*, but before i leave i'll prove it to you!
Option 1: give me your hand… how good are you in thumb wrestling… *thumb wrestling*
Option 2: Are you smart enough to lie 5 times in a row? *5 questions lying game*

but this should be enough for today...now i'm fed up with typing... ;)
Author:  rigoberto [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:35 pm ]
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This just happened for me a while ago where I'd pass this girl on the street on the way to work, so it's pretty fresh in my mind. I don't think it's really a technique so much as it's about being social and opening up to strangers, but hey, it seems to work for me. Remember, they're hot women, but at the end of the day, they're just people and you're in a much less threatening environment than a club... We're dating now, so I suppose it worked out alright... I also met another girl around the same time who is more of a friend now, and I pretty much did it the same way. These situations aren't exactly easy, but the beauty is that time is on your side and you know where and when you'll see her again, so there's no need to rush things.

Anyhow, we'd see each other every work morning and afternoon. Pretty early on (once I realized that SHE realized we were passing each other every day), I made a pretty deliberate attempt to make eye contact. You know she notices you, so it shouldn't be too hard to divert her look to yours, but if you need a little half wave or some gesture to say "hey", cool. Once you get the EC, give a slight smile and nod, then walk on like it's no thing. Now if she stops or says something, by all means proceed. But don't sweat it if you just plant the seed that you're a friendly guy with places to be and walk on.

Next day, we're chums now, so smile and step it up to hello and/or a wave. Again, no need to push anything, just walk on unless she gives an opening.

Depending on the vibe you're getting and how confident you're feeling, you can decide when it's time to approach. It took well over a week before I got the cojones to step up to the girl I'm dating now, but the other one I basically stopped after a day. You can kind of wing how you actually approach, but I used the same thing both times: when you make eye contact, kind of jokingly point to your watch and imply that she better not be late or that she's like clockwork or something like that. You've got pretty decent rapport by now, so it's pretty easy to just use something like that to move into an introduction with something even as lame as "Hey, it's interesting that we see each other EVERY day, but life is so busy that we don't even know each other. My name's ..." Go on about where you're going (job, school, etc.) and ask the same for her. The opening for the N-close happened both times right off the bat for me, but even if it doesn't present itself, you're now at the point where you've got the in to stop her for a conversation any time.

Like I said, I don't know if I'd call this a technique, but it's about using the things you have to your advantage: knowledge of when you'll see each other so you can feel prepared, comfort in the fact that this isn't the only time you'll see each other so you can escalate when you feel ready, and the fact you're doing what a proper human being should do when they see someone they recognize - be friendly. Also, like SKY007 said, you're dealing with total strangers, so there's no harm if it doesn't work out. Anyhow, hope this helps, or at least gives you some ideas...
Author:  rigoberto [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:42 pm ]
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Also Samo, sorry I didn't directly answer your question because I got diverted into the conversation about just picking up strangers as you're passing by. Anyhow, what I'd ask is why you feel the need to get the number in 1-2 minutes? You've sensed that you've got her attention, and like I said before, time is on your side because you'll be seeing each other again. I'd use that to your advantage and go with baby steps...
Author:  SKY007 [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:05 am ]
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because we dont want to waste time rigoberto...
while you wait for years and years, we already have had her
Author:  rigoberto [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:35 am ]
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Fair enough :) I know for me, these approaches are tough to rush because I try to avoid using canned material, and girls tend to be pretty apprehensive the first time you meet them. I'm definitely no master, but I just wanted to suggest that rushing into it is not the only option in these scenarios, especially if you're nervous about messing it up.
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