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Author:  NOILLUSION [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:16 am ]
Post subject:  Need Opinions on this opener (Word Association Game)

Anyway, I haven't tested this yet as an opener, I've been using it as a day 2, and I don't know if it's been used before but most likely someone has done something similar. It goes like this:

Walk up to a girl who's sitting alone or a two-set of girls (oh wait this might not work with a 2-set) and interrupt them, say:

"Hey, would you like to make a new friend?" *smile*

Followed by her response "sure / depends"

"Well first you have to play a game with me, and depending on how you do, I'll consider it." (or you can joke and say, depending on how you do, I'll introduce you to my friend, xxx Name of Celebrity)

(if she says No, call her a sheep/robot/ant and start to walk away. Lmao. It may or may not elicit an emotional response from her, in which you may proceed to try a different routine)

So she replies with "okay," then you tell her that the game is called "Word Association," and ask if she's ever played it. Regardless of whether she's played it or not, you go over the rules briefly. You explain the rules as such:

"Basically, I pick a word, and You say the first word that comes to mind. Then I'll try to think of the next word that comes to mind, and we do this back and forth while maintaining eye contact. Whoever looks away first loses."
You offer to start first.

Now here is the tricky part, figuring out what word to start with (I need some ideas). But it probably doesn't really matter, because in this game you can start with words relating to animals, and then end up with something else entirely.

Therefore, you start off with the word: "cat"
Most people will respond with: "dog"
Then you will respond with: "style"

If she moves back into the animal category, you try to redirect it into a different category. Basically, you want to rig the game in a way that you can figure out some things about her. For instance, you can rig it so she'll eventually say "cat," and you say "doggy," but she does not say the word "style" and you can see her trying to think of a different word (although that would obviously be the word that comes to most people's mind, then you would know that she is perhaps shy and reserved. Anyway, this is all new to me so I really need some good ideas as to figuring out response meanings. Although obviously, it would not be prudent to read too much into single word meanings.

and just let it go from there. It may become really fun, and it might not happen the way you imagine, but during the entire duration of this game the point is to thoroughly study her facial features (find something to neg her about), maintaining eye contact (don't let your eyes wander on her body or you'll lose), maintaining a smile, and micro-calibrating to her response. Pick your words wisely and you may be able to find out a lot about your "opponent"
Also if she has trouble maintaining eye contact, you would be able to tell her confidence level, or it may just mean that her culture differs from the American culture (where people speak maintaining eye contact).

Now the part I haven't quite figured out, is how to end the game if it drags on and what routine to go into afterwards. I don't want to go into another game, because I'm not really big on using games as an opener. I want to know how to transition from this game into a normal conversation but I don't want it to be boring.

I was thinking, if it drags on I'll stop her and say, "Have you played this before? You're pretty good, can we stop here and continue this another time?"

Then I'll say, "so, Beautiful, do you have a name?"
she says its "blahblahblah"
and I go, "Oh, that is such a common/horrible name, let me give you a better one (think of a nickname). You can call me 'blahblahblah' btw."

And then I guess from there I would strike with the "you know, beauty is common" line and then be like, "i've got to go, but I'd like a chance to talk to you again, would you be so kind as to give me (or exchange) your phone number so that we can keep in touch?"

Or you can stay and chat I guess, but for me I'd like to spend 5-10 minutes tops so I can try this on as many girls as I can in one day so that I can thoroughly perfect this routine. What's gold about this idea is that I think it kind of creates a time-distortion with your target.

Any ideas/suggestions/variations on this? I've seen this game played as a word-phrase association game, where you're allowed to use 2 words instead of one, but how would that work?
I want to make this better before trying it out.

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oh, and go here for some ideas on how a word-association game would go and what possible ways you could use the game to study your target:

http://www.wordassociation.org/

Oh and what's really cool is to use the search function to look up a word and find out which words are the most strongly associated to or from that word.

Author:  hockeyguy118 [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:12 am ]
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maybe after awhile just say something like alright or k and just turn around and start walking away she'll probably tell you to wait or something and then you can say that she passed but you can never be friends because shes too..... or you can say fail after one and just walk away pick it after a weird one like if you say cup and she says plate she'll probably stop you to figure out the reason that she failed if not when walking away you can either turn around and say wait actually that one does make sense or just keep on walking if you sense a hostile vibe.

Author:  johnjones [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:33 pm ]
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If I were to play this game, the word I would start with would be

Dick.

The reason is that you initially start with a word that is uncommon and it shows you have balls. I think I will try this today in the dining hall then post back with my results.

Author:  NOILLUSION [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:56 pm ]
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very nice, thank you for volunteering to try it out.
I wanted to try it today in the lunch hall but I realized this would take a lot of time. For the moment I just prefer to use a direct opener and go into random conversation.

and lmao, you could just walk up to your target and out of no where, yell, "PENIS!"
she'll be like "what?" and then you say "it's word association, your turn"
omg, that will completely catch her off guard. OMG OMG OMG. i'm gonna try that instead.

If you say "dick," I am guessing she would respond with "penis?" (oh and did not use the website function for that, it is just what my own response would be)

Let's do some word association predictions as an experiment.

Author:  madals [ Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:28 pm ]
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I think this has a LOT of potental. I will be very interested to see how it plays out and any input people have on how to improve it.

I will even give it a run over, I have a talent for improving on a inital idea so i will see what i can come up with. Just wait till tomorrow tho, to late to think now lol.


Nice work Noillusion :D

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