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| Author: | Mr. Amador [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | My "criminal" past is haunting me |
Im having this problem....let me tell you the story Is not really "Criminal"...that was just to get your attention When I was 17 I hanged out with the bad crowd...the kind of friends your mother doesnt want you to be with. Even the school's principal told me "Red, you are a smart kid. You are going to waste your talent if you keep down that road. Your friends, are a bad influence" I was a "rebel" kid so I just went like "Whatever old man, I can hang out with whoever I want to" I wanted to be a badass and a "tough guy". So, one day my buddies came up with this plan to steal some bikes from a house down the block from were I lived. Cause we were the "tough guys" and all that I just said: "Lets Do it" My mother was right, the principal too. Those "friends" of mine were going to get me on jail eventually. Long story short.... we got caught. Police officers, handcuffs. I saved myself from going to the station just because I lied to the cops, I told them that my friends have treathen me to do it...cause I was the one with the car to load the bikes on. Just stupid dumbass behaivor. Even if we succed, we will only earn like a hundred bucks I actually feel ashamed of that....I mean, I was so close to have a criminal record. When the school's staff knew about it...they just kicked me out. So I had to finish my highschool education on this place were you can finish two years on one....and eventually graduated. Most of my DHV stories are from that "special" school, so people often asks.... Every once in a while people asks about highschool. "Where did you graduated?" or "Why you went to that kind of school?" I lie. It was four years ago (actually almost five) and Im still ashamed of it. I want to be straight about it to people from now on... many of my friends dont know about it, because I always invent a new lie for every person that dares to ask (hope they dont find out). When a girl that is really into me finds ask about it, "what did you do to get kicked out?"...well....usually she sees right thru it. I think that if I just tell her about it....she would see me diferently, maybe in a bad way. Usually it is a topic of conversation pretty early (like in C2) so I dont want to get on that too early, but they keep asking. Its a common ritual among freshmen of my college.... they want to know where did everybody went to highschool....so every girl I have met, asks about it....its just a normal topic of conversation. So...do you guys know how to make this story a DHV?....I know is stupid to feel bad about it but...I have been ashamed of that part of my life for a long time. Girls find badboys attractive... but...like that soon? besides I dont look tough now, maybe it would be weird? I know that if I stop lying about it...I will overcome this thing. What do you think about it? |
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| Author: | VAtrackstar [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:15 am ] |
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You shouldnt lie to people just to gain their approval. This is the wrong mindset because you dont need anyone elses approval except your own. What others think of you is none of your business. If you dont want to tell them, just dont tell them. When they ask, simply say "I dont wanna talk about it." or whatever. Some people might think that this is strange, but it just might be the truth. if it helps your cause, it might even give off a sense of mystery to yourself. They might be like, "wow, there is something mysterious about this guy. I wanna know more." Even if they back off and drop the subject, they will still be wondering about your back story and maybe you can tell them the truth once your ready. Im not sure if this helps, but i tried |
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| Author: | Xenu [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:59 am ] |
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This sounds like stuff that Ka in his topic could work wonders with. Perhaps you should ask him to turn it into some positive story. Here is his topic, though he is kinda busy right now: comprehensive-guide-to-makeing-dhv-stori-vt16465.html My 2 cents about this is that you probably could make it a great DHV story. It at least has the emotional rollercoast that Ka talks about in his topic, which can make a story interesting. With a story about your 'criminal' youth to actually graduating you can show that you learned from it and in the end didn't let yourself be dragged down with your friends (or something like it). And on top of it it might signal a slight bad boy stuff. Of course the alternative could be to be mysterious about it. To say that you did some bad things, nothing big, but things you are not to proud of but that you have left that behind you and have learned from it. But that you'd rather not talk about these things. Not sure how well that would work though. Again Ka could probably make something great of this. |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:45 am ] |
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It's all in how YOU feel about it. You're ashamed to talk about it and so you lie, trying to hide it from others. If you instead accept the fact that you made some mistakes, but you've learned and grown from them, then it won't be so bad. You don't have to tell them everything either. You got kicked out of school for something stupid that your friends convinced you to do when you were younger and so you had to finish school in another place and it was rough, so you learned some good life lessons and came out stronger for it. Ta da. I was once a porn star and that is a real put off for a lot of people, even men judge poorly upon that, but I was in a rough place in life, I was going through a lot of crap, I didn't want to deal with life and after dropping out of school, that was the only work I could find. I was almost dissowned, I moved to a city where I didn't know anyone, but where there was work and my aunt and uncle took me in, helped me get my back on my feet. I got a good job and got my life back on track. Sure wasn't pretty, but I learned a lot about myself and now I'm a better person for it. Tell it like that and instead it becomes a struggle over adversity and I'm respected for it. But hey, I could also tell it to some drunk guys and blow them away if that's what I'm aiming for. All depends on how YOU want it to come across. |
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| Author: | Mr. Amador [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:59 pm ] |
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OK...These is the new version of the story. Its going to rock, cause people usally doesnt talk about that kind of stuff...and crime is an interesting topic (everybody loves crime, just watch an episode of CSI) I know it is a little long but Im sure I can deliver it. Red: "Then I got kicked out of highschool" HB: "What did you do?" Red: "Well, Im not sure if you have earned the right to hear my story...tell me a story about yourself an then Im going to tell you why I got kicked out OK?" She can say whatever she wants to...and If her story is boring I can always say: Red: "Thats the most boring story ever!!!....Let me tell you a really interesting story... When I was 17 years old...I was always getting into trouble. And I had the most un-recommendable kind of friends, the kind of kids you know that are going to end up either on the street or in jail. I mean, they sold drugs, carry weapons..you name it. I was one of them, "the tough guys" (never sold drugs... I dont belive in that crap). Its curious how my mother always ends up being right. She and the school's principal told me to stay away from those kids, that I was way too smart to waste my life down that path....you know the usual lecture. So, one day one of my friends AKA "Satan" (yeah, I know, we had nicknames THAT ridiculous) told me to get involved in this "thing" we gotta do. What kind of thing?....Dude, lets steal the bikes of the apartment building down on apple street. Unfortunately, I agreed Sure, we might looked like criminals, but we didnt had any experience whatsoever...so someone called the cops and they caught us. Handcuffs, ride to the station...Every thing you say can and will be used against you in a court of law....the whole thing. Since it was a catholic school...we had our uniforms on during the robbery...and when the school knew about it we got kicked out...just like that. My life was over, no school in the district will take me now, and my parents were so dissapointed. I even tought that they were going to kicked me out of the house. So I sworned to make it up to them, make them proud of me againg. I entered this special kind of school were you can finish two year on one. I graduated from there top of my class. I studied hard and got a really kickass SAT score. Now Im doing a double degree program..Economics and Law. Now, every single day, when I go to bed I ask to myself: What have I done today to make my parents proud of me again?" HB: |
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| Author: | Starfox [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:34 am ] |
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Quote: It's all in how YOU feel about it. You're ashamed to talk about it and so you lie, trying to hide it from others. If you instead accept the fact that you made some mistakes, but you've learned and grown from them, then it won't be so bad.
Whoa how do you even become a porn star? Is there like ads for that?
You don't have to tell them everything either. You got kicked out of school for something stupid that your friends convinced you to do when you were younger and so you had to finish school in another place and it was rough, so you learned some good life lessons and came out stronger for it. Ta da. I was once a porn star and that is a real put off for a lot of people, even men judge poorly upon that, but I was in a rough place in life, I was going through a lot of crap, I didn't want to deal with life and after dropping out of school, that was the only work I could find. I was almost dissowned, I moved to a city where I didn't know anyone, but where there was work and my aunt and uncle took me in, helped me get my back on my feet. I got a good job and got my life back on track. Sure wasn't pretty, but I learned a lot about myself and now I'm a better person for it. Tell it like that and instead it becomes a struggle over adversity and I'm respected for it. But hey, I could also tell it to some drunk guys and blow them away if that's what I'm aiming for. All depends on how YOU want it to come across. |
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| Author: | Xenu [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:45 am ] |
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Quote: Story
Sounds quite good to me. Except for the last line, which might be lay it on to thick. On a side not: I think it is great that you realised your mistake and worked so hard to succeed. I don't know your parents of course, but im pretty sure they must be quite proud of ya. |
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| Author: | Mr. Amador [ Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:34 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: Story
Sounds quite good to me. Except for the last line, which might be lay it on to thick. On a side not: I think it is great that you realised your mistake and worked so hard to succeed. I don't know your parents of course, but im pretty sure they must be quite proud of ya. What do you guys think about that? |
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| Author: | com.solo [ Wed May 07, 2008 3:12 am ] |
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If it were me, I'd say that I got kicked out at 17 because I was doing small time criminal shit, did a tiny bit of time, and then imply you forged your way into college and your ashamed of it, but don't actually say it, just imply it and say you don't want to talk about it... |
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| Author: | snowstorm12 [ Wed May 14, 2008 11:58 pm ] |
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Yeah, it sounds like your biggest problem is your own shame, not the story or people's reaction to it. You set the frame when you tell the story. The girl is listening and will absorb whatever you tell her. If you, by way of body language, convey shame she will pick up on it and then react as if you are a shameful person. If you convey an overcoming adversity feeling then she'll come away with that and respect you for overcoming your age 17 brush with crime. In the grand scheme of things its not really a big deal, by sophmore year of college people will probably stop asking you where you went to highschool anyways. So in the meantime, tell the truth, but come to terms with your own experience and spin it to your audience how you'd like for them to receive it. |
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| Author: | DaddySays [ Fri May 16, 2008 7:51 pm ] |
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im sorry i cant get past the fact that you lied in the thread title and you are an admitted rat piss off loser your friends were better off without you oh yeah your problem is you are boring |
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| Author: | Mr Butabi [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:38 am ] |
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Actually, when I read this title, it kinda got my mind going... I suppose it would be almost a variation of an opener, but it's obvious it's a false story so it's not like lying either... Here's the scenario: You see a cop while driving or pass one on the street, etc.. Me: "Did the cops see my face?" HB: "I dunno, why?" Me: "My criminal record still haunts me, they never did peg me for what I did" HB: "What did you do?" Me: "It was a while back...background story bout a guy convincing you to be his driver after he robs a bank...and the guy told me he'd give me 3% if I drove him to the Pier.." There's room for expansion if necessary, but I mean, it's just a ridiculous thing to talk about and its so far from the truth it might be fun to play around with. I mean, I dunno if this is any good, but once I saw the title, it got my mind going, and that's how I strike ideas. Enjoy if possible... |
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| Author: | Infamous110 [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:47 pm ] |
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Haha you rat! I've been arrested and in trouble. It's come up with jobs and the like. There's no way to hide it really.It's an attractive quality to be willing to share stories close to your heart and to be honest. 10 years ago my father pretty much ran the town. How do I get past that? Well, it's not me. Being arrested is not me now - it wasn't me then, but it's definitely not me now and will never be again. |
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| Author: | Mr. Amador [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:32 pm ] |
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Ok...this thread is no longer active. Please dont revive old threads. Its funny when people says that its a false story. Its not. It really happened to me. It was a mistake, and I'm human, I can be wrong every once in a while. Unlike some people I'm willing to learn from my mistakes. I posted this because people often wants to know my background. I've learned how to be an interesting guy. People asks, cause I've also learned how to tell good stories. I used to feel ashamed about it cause it really messed my life back then. My girl dumped me, my other friends graduated and moved on, and I wanted to stay away from the friends that got me in trouble. DaddySays, Its funny that you think the story is boring. The last time I used it, the girl really enjoyed it. Im not going to spice it up, this is not a brag post. Authenticity is one of the things I value the most. I didn't just posted this to make a DHV story. I also wanted to get it out of my chest and get some feedback on it. Now I feel much better about it, and even proud of having that experience. |
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| Author: | Mr Butabi [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:42 pm ] |
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RedMole, I didn't mean your story was false. I read it and thought it to be interesting. I was talking about the crap I made up. Mine was false. Sorry bout the confusion bro, glad to see things are working out better for you now. Keep on keepin' on |
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